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    From Landrover Childrens books: My First Breakdown

    Starring the bad guy - Viscous Fan Pulley.
    2/3rds of the way home from bathurst today I started hearing the squeal of a slipping belt. Decided to get it into the local Stealers ASAFP.
    Then about 5 minutes later I heard the sound of debris flying under the vehicle (bearings, some of those around the engine bay for me to collect).
    Battery light came on and it didn't sound too healthy so I pulled up in under 800m at the bottom of a hill.
    Got out, thought "That'll be the pulley JC told me about last night, goddam it murphey, take pity on your fellow irishman" (Note to self: When JC says jump....)
    Removed the radiator cowl and found the following scene...






    Then I discovered I had no credit and even less reception, eventually got through to dad, who got through to NRMA.
    "We are currently experiencing extended delays with roadside assistance"
    That'd be right. Platinum package works well.
    Dad comes and tows me home the remaining 14 odd kms.
    TC and gearbox in N, key in pos 1. New appreciation for power assisted brakes and steering.
    So my questions are as follows:
    1. What sort of cost should I be expecting?
    2. Is it worth getting it checked out for other damage, although I pulled up pretty much instantly?
    3. Is it a difficult job to do myself, or would you advise letting a pro do it?
    Thankfully the radiator looks okay, it's had a bit of a nick but it's not leaking at all and the fan itself looks fine.
    Cheers
    Muppet

    P.S consider this a pre-emptive apology if I snap at anyone, currently having a **** ending to a **** day, so my sense of humour might be slightly frazzled
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    " very carefully from a distance schuy1 pokes Muppet with a stick "
    Now to the sensible stuff........ The normal stuff springs to mind, cracks in housings, bent/damaged pulleys, but if the radiator is fine and the fan looks good probly you did not do much damage touch wood!1 it looks neat enough from the pics even the belt is not that chewed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by schuy1 View Post
    " very carefully from a distance schuy1 pokes Muppet with a stick "
    Now to the sensible stuff........ The normal stuff springs to mind, cracks in housings, bent/damaged pulleys, but if the radiator is fine and the fan looks good probly you did not do much damage touch wood!1 it looks neat enough from the pics even the belt is not that chewed!
    Hey don't poke the Muppet, Swedish Chef has knives
    I tried lots of searches but I couldn't find any evidence of one failing like this before.
    Cracks in the housing where exactly? I'm assuming the pulley is attached to the timing cover somehow?
    There's alot of movement in the fan, I can move it so it's touching the radiator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    1. What sort of cost should I be expecting?
    2. Is it worth getting it checked out for other damage, although I pulled up pretty much instantly?
    3. Is it a difficult job to do myself, or would you advise letting a pro do it?
    Thankfully the radiator looks okay, it's had a bit of a nick but it's not leaking at all and the fan itself looks fine.
    Cheers
    Muppet

    P.S consider this a pre-emptive apology if I snap at anyone, currently having a **** ending to a **** day, so my sense of humour might be slightly frazzled
    Mate normally at this stage I would stand there, shake my head gently, draw breath through my teeth and say something like, whffff, big job that one. being quite sarcastic about it...

    Given your current disposition I'll shall instead say

    "Mate, have you thought about mortgaging a kidney?"

    you're looking at about a days investagative work, a day ordering parts, a few days looking after some beers and a day to get it all back together, best guess is $600 in parts (its that weeping coolant hose and the loose bit of lecy tape on the ac loom split tube that blows the budget)

    If you werent under power and were just rolling down for the 800m after the alternator light came on the engine is fine, especially if it didnt drop any coolant.
    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    Hey don't poke the Muppet, Swedish Chef has knives
    I tried lots of searches but I couldn't find any evidence of one failing like this before.
    Cracks in the housing where exactly? I'm assuming the pulley is attached to the timing cover somehow?
    There's alot of movement in the fan, I can move it so it's touching the radiator.
    The fan hub support bearing has failed, these can crack the timing cover housing when they let go.

    If the outer bearing race hasnt moved you're in luck. Put a piece of cardboard down in between the fan and the radiator before you do anything else, if you acidentally lean on the fan in its current condition you can put it through the radiator,
    Dave

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    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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    Oki I sorta assumed you knew the viscous unit was what disintegrated, yes cracks in the frontal housing from thingy hitting/off balanced. At the very least new vis unit. check the pulley carefully, nicks/burrs/bent parts will chew up a new belt fast.Check the fan carefully for cracks, even small 1s can cause bits to fly off! I have no idea as to how much, never done a trick like yours before It is not a big job to replace if you have the tools and RAVE. Sorry that is about limit of my help sorry. But gives you an idea.

    Cheers Scott

    Sorry did mean what Blknight said re pulley( well it is close the the vis unit! )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    Mate normally at this stage I would stand there, shake my head gently, draw breath through my teeth and say something like, whffff, big job that one. being quite sarcastic about it...

    Given your current disposition I'll shall instead say

    "Mate, have you thought about mortgaging a kidney?"

    you're looking at about a days investagative work, a day ordering parts, a few days looking after some beers and a day to get it all back together, best guess is $600 in parts (its that weeping coolant hose and the loose bit of lecy tape on the ac loom split tube that blows the budget)

    If you werent under power and were just rolling down for the 800m after the alternator light came on the engine is fine, especially if it didnt drop any coolant.
    Given that I've read your book thread I wondered how long it was till you couldn't resist
    Hasn't dropped any coolant whatsoever. Took my foot off the noise pedal as soon as it went so it was just a roll to where it came to rest.
    If you don't mind me asking, what's the go with the hose and AC loom?
    That hose has had that exact coolant deposit there in all the time I've owned it so for now it will be a case of getting it back on the road.
    Cheers mate
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    New fan about $250 aftermarket, new idler pulley about $40, new tension pulley $110 and new belt for good measure.
    Sure philipA could pop out and get that fan off in a jiffy.

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    theres 3 parts to a hose.

    the inner
    the webbing
    the outer.

    the inner holds the fluid
    the webbing resists the pressure
    the outer protects the webbing

    if the coolant is coming out the weave of the webbing it means the inner is becoming porous and is going to fail eventually. If one of your hoses is weeping they may all be. What makes it worse is that someone has not only got the correct spring clamp on there they have doubled it up with a screw type hose clamp.

    The bit of electrical tape is just a distraction. well until the bit on the end of it snaps off, gets blown behind the fan pully by the backwash of air off of the block and then gets caught up in fan mounting bearing and causes prematu.......

    Have you measured the bit of electrical tape to make sure its still oem length?
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkie View Post
    New fan about $250 aftermarket, new idler pulley about $40, new tension pulley $110 and new belt for good measure.
    Sure philipA could pop out and get that fan off in a jiffy.
    Fan looks fine, no evidence whatsoever of any damage so fingers crossed
    Might be knocking on slunnies door with a trailer full of beer
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