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  1. 19th April 2013, 04:48 PM #1
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    Help Please - key won't turn in ignition!

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    OK so I got home this afternoon after getting some new tyres, everything was fine. Jumped back in the car 10 mins later and the key won't turn in the ignition. After about a minute of removing and replacing the key, jiggling the steering wheel the steering lock came on.
    It is as though the barrel or key is worn out and no longer works. This happened about a week ago but after trying for about 45 seconds it came good and has not happened again until now.
    I have been thru the workshop manual dvd (thanks Roverlord) but it does not mention this situation.
    Battery showing 12.6V
    Replaced key battery with a new one to rule that out (car will lock unlock from 20M away)
    Using keyfob to lock, alarm light flashes constantly for 10 seconds then once every 2 seconds
    Using keyfob to unlock, alarm light goes out instantly, but comes back on after about 1 minute.
    I have disconected the battery, put my foot on the brake for 30 secs and reconnected the battery - no change.
    It is my understanding that the passive coil is only activated with the key in position II, so key code should not be an issue, in fact the electrics don't even come into play until the key is turned, so I am guessing that the key or barrel are worn or simply not working.
    PLEASE HELP
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  2. 19th April 2013, 04:59 PM #2
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    Worn key barrel, very common.
    Temporary fix is to use some Inox or graphite power on the key barrel should get it going.
    Only permanent fix is to replace it, there's a top tutorial on how to fit the ignition barrel from a D1.
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  3. 19th April 2013, 05:07 PM #3
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    Suggest that the barrel shims - the bits that go up and down with the key pattern and the barrel are worn and knackered. the only thing one should be hanging off of European ignition keys in their locks is the key ring

    Mine past D2 did that years ago, starts a process of locksmiths and barrel/s and on and on. Don't worry about passing "Go" just remove all of the shims, the ball and spring and the steering lock straight up. The vehicle won't start unless the key code is read by the ignition key coil anyway. The only reason you need the actual key is turn the power on and the starter to "Start"........Oh! and for the sensor up under the hood lining to get the message that the key electronics are the correct ones for the ECU.

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    And of course the windows are down so I can't even get them up till I fix the problem
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  5. 19th April 2013, 05:57 PM #5
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    I persevered with mine for quite some time until I eventually got to the point where I thought it might never turn again - I went to a locksmith known for fixing these (in Perth anyway) and $80 later the barrel's funcitoning beautifully 2 years down the track.
    I know replacement is a very safe option, but if you get a good 'smith it could sort you out for sometime to come...
    As DM sadi, in the meantime some dry lube like graphite powder may at least get your windows up and somewhere safe.
    Good luck
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    I will try the graphite in the morning, after a walk to the hardware.

    Just hope it doesn't rain here tonight!



    Thanks for all your help
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  7. 19th April 2013, 06:12 PM #7
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    Don't use graphite..
    Go buy some INOX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Don't use graphite..
    Go buy some INOX.
    I have INOX in a spray can, is that what you mean?

    Cheers
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  9. 19th April 2013, 07:33 PM #9
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    Yes, The inox spray in the can is the go. It is rated for electrical stuff so will not begger the electrics, unlike WD-40 or CRC etc That is what DM meant by not using a liquid , not so much no liquid spray, just not incorrect 1's.

    Cheers Scott
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  10. 19th April 2013, 08:43 PM #10
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    I find a moderate whack on the rim of the steering wheel or by putting the key into the ignition backwards compared to normal does the trick. I have a spare lock set ready to go in.
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