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    VNT Turbo install

    A few days ago I installed a new vnt turbo into my Disco (2004, manual, Td5, reflashed, egr blank) and thought I’d give some feedback to those who may be thinking of it.

    I was trying to improve low end performance (750 to 1500 RPM range) and it has been a great success. Firstly and most markedly the acceleration is now smooth all the way from 750 into the 2000s and above. I now no longer get the slug performance followed by the sudden surge as the old turbo kicked in at 1600. The low end torque/power is markedly improved, too. I can now accelerate away from 750 in third and 1250 in fifth on the flat or slight incline. I don’t know yet how the high end has changed but I was always happy with that. Note, I don’t get a dramatic or neck snapping performance improvement at those rpms and didn’t expect to. But I now don’t stall or have to rev the engine and slip the clutch to take off on hills.

    I bought a Bell Auto’s vnt turbo and boost box from UK, shipped to Sydney for about $1450 (GBP895). Installation was about $850 including about 4.5 hours labour, new gaskets and feed pipes, new (larger) maf, etc. Whilst it was a simple swap over, the tuning was tricky (apparently) as when initially installed, it was generating max boost of 35psi and ultimately required a different maf to work smoothly. It’s now wound back to 23. Haven’t needed to change the programming and don’t expect to change the intercooler but we’ll see.

    It’s not cheap, however. I think it's probably not value for money for autos and some may say not for manuals. But I am happy, its just so smoooth. It will be interesting to see how the fuel economy works out. If I don’t use a lead foot, I am hoping for a small improvement.

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    Mundy.
    A VNT is my next project. We tow a big van and the Disco is very dead when the turbo is off boost. Love to hear how it goes in the long term.
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    The boost box + modified MAF route seems to be pretty common with the VNT upgrades. In many ways you'd be better off with the IRB dual channel boost box which gives you the ability to modify the MAF's output. It means you can use stock MAF's rather than relying on tuning companies for continued supply of the modded units.

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    Just got the same kit for my d2 and it's good to near that it works well in a manual as I was thinking of swapping my tired auto for a manual. I look forward to hearing any updates.

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    I find this part of the post interesting Pete Bell told me not to adjust it as it is preset and you shouldn't mess with it.
    I think you will find if you speak to Jose and he does a MAP for the VNT you will have a much better result, the larger inter-cooler also helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mundy View Post
    etc. Whilst it was a simple swap over, the tuning was tricky (apparently) as when initially installed, it was generating max boost of 35psi and ultimately required a different maf to work smoothly. It’s now wound back to 23. Haven’t needed to change the programming and don’t expect to change the intercooler but we’ll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djam1 View Post
    I find this part of the post interesting Pete Bell told me not to adjust it as it is preset and you shouldn't mess with it.
    I think you will find if you speak to Jose and he does a MAP for the VNT you will have a much better result, the larger inter-cooler also helps.
    I/we were a little surprised, too. But 35psi was way too high and now at 23 it works well as described. A new map and/or intercooler are options but from my part, if fuel economy is ok, low end continues as is now, there's no degrade of high end performance, and egt's aren't excessive, then it ain't broke and I don't need to fix it. If I am operating at a slightly less than peak output then hopefully things will last longer.

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    I have put a BAS vnt on and map on my Defender TD5 and Pete told me the same thing, that is not to play with it. BUT I think it needs playing with. It seems to have a pretty good bottom end, but then is simply seems to stop trying. I can just get to 110 on the freeway and that is about it. So at the moment I am pretty disappointed, but hopefully will work what is going on at some stage.

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    Do some monitoring with a Nanocom or similar it should pull at least 160 Km/h.
    Maybe a MAF or something
    Any ideas what the EGTs are?
    I also found a big improvement in top end by doing the airbox mod (search on this site)

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    Quote Originally Posted by djam1 View Post
    Do some monitoring with a Nanocom or similar it should pull at least 160 Km/h.
    Maybe a MAF or something
    Any ideas what the EGTs are?
    I also found a big improvement in top end by doing the airbox mod (search on this site)
    My EGT probe is before the turbo and it not too different before and after the VNT installation. Before I could get to 600+ and now maybe 50 deg more but that is about it. The EGT's go up when it is loaded up (which is to be expected) but if I put my foot down to get from say 90kmh and push it to 110 they don't seem to change that much but its a real struggle to get there
    I do have a Nanocom but arn't really sure what I am looking for....

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    Take it for a run and record the outputs to the SD Card then post it up so people can have a look.
    Might be really obvious
    Presume the car doesn't weight 4 tonne or something?

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