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    Watts link upgrade

    Hi,

    Installed a 2" lift a while back, and replaced the panhard rod with an adjustable unit after my tyres started to get chopped out real bad. Just wanted to know if there is any need to do the watts link or put in a modified watts link to compensate?

    Cheers
    Bronson

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    Hi Bronson,

    Sorry this isnt going to help you but if you dont mind what brand panhard rod are you using?
    Much appreciated.
    Michael.

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    No need to modify the watts linkage. Also the Panhard Rod shouldn't scrub tyres, it just locates the axle.
    Cheers
    Slunnie


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    No need to modify the watts linkage. Also the Panhard Rod shouldn't scrub tyres, it just locates the axle.

    More likely he lifted it 2" and didn't do an alignment so it all shifted.

    Since fitting the (unnecessary) pan hard it's likely been aligned!

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    The lift shouldnt affect it. The only thing adjustable is the toe which isnt affected by lift.
    Cheers
    Slunnie


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    The rods

    When you lift the front you are pulling the front axle to
    one side the more lift the more sideways movement
    Both axles will still be pointing in the same direction but
    they will not be inline.
    Panhard rod should ideally be horizontal at normal ride height.

    Rear lifting upsets the watts linkage the middle cast piece should
    ideally be sitting like a figure 8 with both rods parallel
    liffting will drop the axle and misalign the figure 8 more when
    the car is hung up on its belly with rear wheels hanging in air.

    Pete

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    Rod pics

    This may explain better
    Stock set up note figure 8



    Lifted with modified arms


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    More likely he lifted it 2" and didn't do an alignment so it all shifted.

    Since fitting the (unnecessary) pan hard it's likely been aligned!
    From my understanding it throws the geometry out on the front end, as the axle was thrown across to the drivers side by about 25mm.
    As a result all inner edges on the tyres both front and back wore really bad, to the point where the car wasn't driveable.
    Took it to a well known 4x4 workshop in MELB, that builds competion trucks and was advised to get an adjustable panhard rod. Since then tyres are perfect after replacing the worn ones

    Bronson

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotsD2 View Post
    When you lift the front you are pulling the front axle to
    one side the more lift the more sideways movement
    Both axles will still be pointing in the same direction but
    they will not be inline.
    Panhard rod should ideally be horizontal at normal ride height.

    Rear lifting upsets the watts linkage the middle cast piece should
    ideally be sitting like a figure 8 with both rods parallel
    liffting will drop the axle and misalign the figure 8 more when
    the car is hung up on its belly with rear wheels hanging in air.

    Pete
    Exactly!

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    Hi pacemaker,

    Adjustable nolathane panhard

    Cheers
    Bronson

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