I really like the APT ones, save for one thing - the lack of a curved end. In that regard I like the shape of the Outcast 4wd ones. The Outcast are considerably more expensive and the welding on the photos I have seen in photos seems to stand out where he curved end parts to the outer pipe have been added...I will ask Ben from APT if he can stick some curved ends on...or I could stop being lazy and weld up ends myself...

Has anyone compared the two in the flesh or otherwise can say which they prefer and why...I think the ones from APT might catch things whereas the curved end would deflect?

Cheers