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    Thumbs up Pommie Provent

    Just thought I'd say thanks to you lads down under for pioneering the provent with the D2.

    I've got a bit of a breathy motor so had to do something to stop me having to keep flushing my intercooler.

    Cheers

    Bought a provent, was 95 quid over here, some 19mm ID marine fuel hose, some 25mm ID marine hose, and some jubilee clips.

    Then started the fitting....



    The 19mm ID hose fits into the 25mm hose, so I'll temp fit it that way until some brass reducers I've got on order arrive...

    PCV was filthy:


    As was the main duct back to the IC from the turbo:


    Flushed all the intake side with white spirit which brought it up nice and clean.

    Fitted:


    Went for a quick test drive, and popped the tank cap off - mist circulating in there already.

    The tank is just draining onto some wadded paper towel for now, but will fit a steel catch container shortly (old water bottle from walking).

    Might need to reroute the main breather run to prevent oil coalescing and pooling in the low point.

    Next job was to flush the intercooler and intake manifold.

    This bit took another 5 hrs solid!!

    The inlet manifold is just such a bugger to remove, no room to get tools onto the bolts, but I got there in the end....



    Stripped down the front end to allow the IC to be removed, then unbolted the fuel cooler from the inlet manifold. Disconnected the harness for injectors, maf, IAT, coolant sensor, wastegate modulator and fed that though the inlet manifold legs. Removed the MAP, removed the De-Egr pipe, unplugged the glow plugs then fiddled like buggery getting all the bolts off the mani.

    It was in pretty poor state:


    Loads of thick gunge inside


    Worst thing was that the front three lower bolts weren't even finger tight, so oil and crap had been leaking/blowing out down the head and block - gah!

    Hoping this is oil blow by from the mani, and not the start of a failed HG.



    I'll degunk it tomorrow and jetwash.

    Inlet manifold full of white spirit:


    Did this twice, then did 3 lots of gunk and jet wash, got it a lot cleaner but not mint.

    IC was next, it had a full bottle of white spirit:


    Set my hot air gun onto the manifold to dry it out. And blew the IC out using my airgun & compressor.

    It's all back together now, and she's a rocket ship again

    For those interested, the car has an Alive Tuning PP4 upgrade - full SS sports exhaust, Large IC, boost box, Hybrid turbo with billet compressor, and a remap to suit.

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    So my car recently started to blow whitish smoke at start up, and blue tinged smoke on boost.

    The cam carrier also started to weep oil.

    After lots of messing about thinking I'd blown a turbo seal I decided to remove the lid from the provent and test again.

    First of all I was greeted by loads of horrible oily sludge:


    This had obviously also been blowing out of the top over pressure port...

    So my guess is that I've managed to clog the provent filter already!

    Anyhow, filter out, and all of the smoke issues went away.

    Bit miffed because I'm now going to get an oily IC again.

    So, anyone else had this experience?

    Could this be because the oil drain was open to air, therefore there was no suction on the underside of the filter?

    Why is my engine so breathy, eve though performance is fantastic? - checking oil pressure next in case the pump relief valve is stuck.

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    Can you get your oil tested, does the engine use coolant, that sludge looks like it could be water in it, but cant Tell from a picture, if it is just carbon then you could have serious internal issue ie rings. If that Coolant in oil then there maybe cracked some where

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    On closer look I'. Sure , can see water droplets and also green coolant around the thread of your crank.case filter, re reading your story ads up to white smoke on start up actually burning coolant

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    Doesn't appear to be loosing coolant - there's certainly no coolant smell/color to the sludge (but not sure there would be?). I was under the impression that there's a lot of water vapour in blow by anyway?

    Regarding rings, I hope not! Would've thought I'd have performance issues though?

    Nanocom suggest everything is in balance, none of the injectors are having to compensate for a poor pot?

    Guess there's a few things to do:

    oil pressure test
    oil test
    compression test

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangie ute on 38'' View Post
    On closer look I'. Sure , can see water droplets and also green coolant around the thread of your crank.case filter, re reading your story ads up to white smoke on start up actually burning coolant
    That green bit is a reflection - my coolant is pink OAT.

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    Just to add, the whitish smoke was almost certainly unburnt derv, it stank and burnt my nose & eyes.

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    Different engine, but the provent on my Isuzu 4bd1 ends up with just liquid oil in it - nothing like the sludge you are getting in yours.

    What sort of driving are you doing? Lots of short trips perhaps? Looks like its not getting hot enough to dry the moisture out.

    Steve
    1985 County - Isuzu 4bd1 with HX30W turbo, LT95, 255/85-16 KM2's
    1988 120 with rust and potential
    1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
    2003 D2a Td5 - the boss's daily drive

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveG View Post
    Different engine, but the provent on my Isuzu 4bd1 ends up with just liquid oil in it - nothing like the sludge you are getting in yours.

    What sort of driving are you doing? Lots of short trips perhaps? Looks like its not getting hot enough to dry the moisture out.

    Steve
    Usually a 3 mile drive to dump the kids followed by 22 mile commnute to work 50/50 A roads & Motorway but quite often stop start (but engine always running!). Then 25 mile commute back home, again stop start.

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    Added a sealed catch can to the vent, and cleaned all the excess oil off the filter cartridge/provent body.

    Put it all back together and touch would no smoke yet. Will see how it goes.

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