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Thread: Any one fitted the 2.8 stroker TD5 upgrade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by twr7cx View Post
    How much extra performance can 300cc add?

    For that sort of dollars there's a lot better engines I would try and fit rather...
    Substantial improvement actually...

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    The Td5 is a beautifully designed and executed engine (except for the position of the injector harness entry which is in a pool of oil) Not just the best Landrover engine but one of the best ever engines.

    Dougal mentions Compound Turbos

    It just happens that my new truck has this engine, standard with compound turbos made by Sofim

    iveco F1C EEV 3.0L Twin Turbo,

    it also is a brilliant design one of my favourite things is it has a system similar to a provent built into the timing cover , a Mann & Hummel designed centrifuge that condenses crankcase fumes back into oil , resulting in oil-free fumes released to the turbos & intercooler (via pcv) . It is a super efficient and clean burning engine.
    Ive done 35,000km without the need for a single DPF regeneration.

    If I had a decision about an engine to retrofit into a Defender or Disco this would be no1 on my list.

    I might have mentioned this before but Fuso even chose this engine for their new Canters and redesignated it the Fuso 4P10

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    The Td5 is a beautifully designed and executed engine (except for the position of the injector harness entry which is in a pool of oil) Not just the best Landrover engine but one of the best ever engines.

    Dougal mentions Compound Turbos

    It just happens that my new truck has this engine, standard with compound turbos made by Sofim

    iveco F1C EEV 3.0L Twin Turbo,

    it also is a brilliant design one of my favourite things is it has a system similar to a provent built into the timing cover , a Mann & Hummel designed centrifuge that condenses crankcase fumes back into oil , resulting in oil-free fumes released to the turbos & intercooler (via pcv) . It is a super efficient and clean burning engine.
    Ive done 35,000km without the need for a single DPF regeneration.

    If I had a decision about an engine to retrofit into a Defender or Disco this would be no1 on my list.

    I might have mentioned this before but Fuso even chose this engine for their new Canters and redesignated it the Fuso 4P10

    That sounds like an outstanding engine. Not sure if it would fit into the TD5 system, but perhaps an early Defender? Bob
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Substantial improvement actually...
    Can you quantify that?

    A ECU remap, intercooler, VNT upgrade will set you back approximately $3,500.00 - budget perhaps $5,000.00 fitted then.

    The pricing mentioned above for the 2.8L kit was $18,000.00 fitted.

    Does the 300cc give more than 3 times the performance increase?

    Or is the 300cc 'substantial increase' about equal to the gains from the VNT, intercooler and ECU remap?

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    Of course it's not 3x the performance...

    Simple gains are often cheap, it's the extra that cost..

    Your question is ridiculous, because you know the answer vs $$$ equation doesn't add up.

    Now, fit your mods to a 2.8 TD5 and there is a huge improvement as the extra swept volume equates to nearly an extra "litre" at full boost.

    Lara on the UK sites built a 2.8 TD5 that went like a scalded cat...

    Up to you to justify the HP/$$ equation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Lara on the UK sites built a 2.8 TD5 that went like a scalded cat...
    That was more about the 38psi boost than the extra 300cc though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    That was more about the 38psi boost than the extra 300cc though.

    True - he was running up there!

    I'm sure he detuned to around 28psi when he threw the last turbo on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    True - he was running up there!

    I'm sure he detuned to around 28psi when he threw the last turbo on it.
    I'd hope so. For the turbos sake!

    Still, we salute those pioneers who break things so we know the safe limits.

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    Standard defender is 90kw 300Nm at the flywheel.
    Nm increase through the drive train Kw decrease.
    The Les Richmond rover was 180kw & 590Nm at the wheels. It would definitely have a better torque curve than the standard engine. (I think the details I read on their FB page). Imagine pulling something heavy, so much better than the normal Td5. The Les Richmond has the bigger intercooler, remap, VNT, EGT removed.

    If you had the money for a long term project, wouldn't you???

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