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    Smart mechanic

    Hey guys,
    Just curios to hear your opinion...
    Some weeks ago I took my car to a couple of Land Rover specialist for fix the three amigos problem...
    I've tried with the nanocom of a friend of mine to check what the problem was and has show up that the problem was (SHUTTLE VALVE FAULT).
    The first one asked me 1400$ for replace the modulator, another one asked me around 250$ that in the WORST case can become 400$.
    Guess which one have I choose?
    Anyway the second mechanic told me that the 400$ were only if he had to replace the shuttle valve...
    So I took the car to the mechanic and at the end the price was around 450$ without replacing the shuttle valve but only doing a "mod" to the wirings (bypass of the modulator/shuttle valve)+a fix to a plug at the left rear wheel (1 pin was jammed)+ reset of codes and diagnostic etc.

    After a couple weeks the three amigos have show up again so I've ring up the mechanic and he said that maybe the shuttle valve needs to be replaced...
    He said that is not going to charge me for the labour but only for the part...
    If I have understood correct, this means that the mod he did will get useless because the shuttle valve will get replaced...
    I want to specify that when I've heade there I were asking for a shuttle valve replacement and not any mods.

    I'm really annoyed about that...

    What do you think have I to do?
    I think is not right that I have to pay for the new part but is only 1 year that I'm in Australia so I dont really know how this kind of things works here...

    Cheers

    Ardo92

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    Hi, first of all you should do somehow to get to your friend again and plug in nanocom cos there's a quite big chance to have other fault not SVS related if the wiring mod was made cos i suppose(or at least let's hope) that who made it knew to measure the resistances of the switch pack and also if there was a sign of brake fluid ingress he would have told you... so make sure what fault it is before you spend more money on it cos now it can be a worn hub, an earth issue or something else too


    by the way do the amigos reset on ignition or it's permannent, and if they reset can't you see the ABS light alone untill you drive it?...that's important


    also if the wiring mod is done you can access the two wires(the one to earth and the other to the yellow/green wire) so if you can handle a multimeter you can check yourself the resistances of the switch pack on those wires, you must get 3Kohm with pedal released and 1Kohm with pedal depressed... if you get these values no need to replace the SV switch pack
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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    Hi, first of all you should do somehow to get to your friend again and plug in nanocom cos there's a quite big chance to have other fault not SVS related if the wiring mod was made cos i suppose(or at least let's hope) that who made it knew to measure the resistances of the switch pack and also if there was a sign of brake fluid ingress he would have told you... so make sure what fault it is before you spend more money on it cos now it can be a worn hub, an earth issue or something else too


    by the way do the amigos reset on ignition or it's permannent, and if they reset can't you see the ABS light alone untill you drive it?...that's important


    also if the wiring mod is done you can access the two wires(the one to earth and the other to the yellow/green wire) so if you can handle a multimeter you can check yourself the resistances of the switch pack on those wires, you must get 3Kohm with pedal released and 1Kohm with pedal depressed... if you get these values no need to replace the SV switch pack
    Thank you for the answer, tonight I will try with the multimeter...
    I try to call up my friend for the nanocom reset...
    Anyway I never had only the abs light...

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    agree with sierrafery's comments

    do all the tests so you have all the data first, including checking each wheel sensor. all the info on how to do this can be found in the good oil and a fried with a code reader

    $450 to do the shuttle wiring mod - wow - and no replacement of the shuttle valve for that - double wow.

    I bought a new shuttle valve kit of ebay for $99 and did it myself in an hour - wasn't too hard, just tight fit and you don't need to undo any of the brake lines etc.

    Good luck - this can be frustrating - I was lucky and only had just the one fault code, but i did all the tests on the wheels so eliminated as much as i could before doing the shuttle valve. Problem hasn't returned as yet - just over 4 weeks.

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    For the test with multimeter you'll have to unsolder the wire which is connected to the yellow/green one to not get any parallel resistance against earth, the other one leave it alone and measure across that wire which was connected to yellow/green and earth...then if the readings are good solder it back, if the mod is well made the yellow/green wire is cut and the side toward the modulator is left ''in te air''.... there are two earth points in front of the airbox make sure it's good contact there
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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    Hi, first of all you should do somehow to get to your friend again and plug in nanocom cos there's a quite big chance to have other fault not SVS related if the wiring mod was made cos i suppose(or at least let's hope) that who made it knew to measure the resistances of the switch pack and also if there was a sign of brake fluid ingress he would have told you... so make sure what fault it is before you spend more money on it cos now it can be a worn hub, an earth issue or something else too


    by the way do the amigos reset on ignition or it's permannent, and if they reset can't you see the ABS light alone untill you drive it?...that's important


    also if the wiring mod is done you can access the two wires(the one to earth and the other to the yellow/green wire) so if you can handle a multimeter you can check yourself the resistances of the switch pack on those wires, you must get 3Kohm with pedal released and 1Kohm with pedal depressed... if you get these values no need to replace the SV switch pack
    Is this the cable of the mod?
    https://imageshack.com/i/eyfPIq2Qj
    I can't see any other cable underneath...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardo92 View Post
    Is this the cable of the mod?
    https://imageshack.com/i/eyfPIq2Qj
    I can't see any other cable underneath...
    https://imageshack.com/i/eyfPIq2Qj

    How can I check if the mod have been done?

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    I can't figure out anything from that pic, if you reach under the modulator you should feel two wires coming out from the bottom of it(SVS pack) one connected to earth and the other connected to the yellow/green wire in the loom which goes to the modulator's multiplug to the part which is going toward the ECU and the side toward the modulator let free...that's how it should be...and you must measure on the wire from SVS which goes into the yellow/green wire disconnected and earth.
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    I had a look on Google how the bypass mod should look and I have nothingike that... I'm worried that he did nothing...
    what can I do in this case?
    I'm going to ask him to show me the cables of the mod (last time he said that they are well hidden). What about if he refuses or can't show me?
    What can I do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardo92 View Post
    I had a look on Google how the bypass mod should look and I have nothingike that... I'm worried that he did nothing...
    what can I do in this case?
    I'm going to ask him to show me the cables of the mod (last time he said that they are well hidden). What about if he refuses or can't show me?
    What can I do?
    Is he bigger than you?

    Benefit of the doubt first, you need to ask him first.
    Hard reality is that if he has ripped you off, the stress of pursuing it wont really be worth it unless he offers you a refund.
    Also if you do call his bluff and he admits he did not do the job, would you trust him to work on your car and do the right thing now?

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