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Thread: Rim Options for D1/2/3/4?

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    Rim Options for D1/2/3/4?

    I have a dilemma in that I plan/hope to be using one of my two vehicles (see footer below) for the big lap, and want to have matching rims/tyres on the tandem caravan - yet to be built, but deposit paid. Would love it to be the RRC if I can satisfy myself re reliability, but suspect it will be the D2a with its new 265 75 16R Scorpions on 8" rims.

    I know that my D1/RRC rims do not fit my D2a/P38 studs or vice versa, but thinking ahead for resale options etc for the van, what is the story for D3 and D4? Apart from using larger diameter rims, are the D3/4 centres compatible with D2a/P38? I suspect not, but it might help me make a decision if so.

    I did read here somewhere some time ago about D1/D2 stud adapters, but doubt they are legal in AUS?

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    D3 and 4 rims fit the D2, just need to get spigot adaptor (search eBay) and D3 wheel nuts.

    BMW X5 rims also fit the D3 and hence D2, same story need the spigot adaptor to fit to D2, and different wheel nuts again to fit to either.

    http://www.wheelfitment.eu is a handy site, let's you look up a vehicle and then lists all the other compatible vehicles that fit.

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    I figure Gav go with d2 hub on the van then you can fit the d3and d4 rims and have the biggest choice. May not be able to go back to a d2 rim if you request the d3 that said the trailer hub might be the same centre diameter on all 3??

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    Many thanks for replies.

    DiscoDB - good site thanks. So can I assume spigot adapters are legal?

    Pity I could not get standard 6 stud stub axles (for resale ease) and have an adapter for LR 5 stud - I'm assuming such would be highly illegal?

    Then again, I guess in the overall scheme of things replacement new brake hubs with the appropriate studs should not be that expensive anyway?
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    I've briefly looked into fitting Disco 2 rims to a trailer (I have the wheels but don't have a trailer yet ) The big issue seems to be the small centre bore on the D2 wheels and the centre of the trailer hub being too big. I think you are also limited to using Ford or Holden bearings, as the parallel bearings make the hub centre way too big.

    Some people open up the centre of the D2 wheels to get them to fit, but this seems pointless to me as you still can't use the actual wheels fitted to the Disco on the trailer, and if you fit the opened up wheels to the Disco you're going to potentially shear wheel studs as the centre bore is no longer taking the weight. The only plus is you now have the look of matching wheels on the D2 & trailer.

    I have a feeling that Redback on here has managed to do it correctly though. I can't seem to find where I saw that or remember how he did it.

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    Steel Discovery 2 rims have a far larger center bore than the alloys and will fit a trailer hub with no problems. I have a set on my trailer with slimline bearing hubs. You'll need a set of tapered face nuts if you want to fit them as a spare on the car.

    Discovery 2 stud pattern, PCD and stud size/thread are the same as VE/VF Commodores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gavinwibrow View Post
    So can I assume spigot adapters are legal?
    I suppose the question is, is fitting aftermarket rims illegal? I understand that it is common to use a spigot ring inserted into aftermarket rims to bring the centre ID back to match the hub spigot OD. And a spigot ring pressed over the hub spigot you would not even know it was present. The spigot ring is just to make sure the wheel stays centred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelvo View Post
    Some people open up the centre of the D2 wheels to get them to fit, but this seems pointless to me as you still can't use the actual wheels fitted to the Disco on the trailer, and if you fit the opened up wheels to the Disco you're going to potentially shear wheel studs as the centre bore is no longer taking the weight.
    Its only the hub cap hole that would need to be enlarged which is not used to centre the rim on the hub, but would need to enlarge all rims to allow swapping either way between the car and trailer/van. Hence its not much of an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Its only the hub cap hole that would need to be enlarged which is not used to centre the rim on the hub, but would need to enlarge all rims to allow swapping either way between the car and trailer/van. Hence its not much of an option.
    The central hub spigot is not used to centre rims if you have tapered / centring wheel nuts. I believe this is true for steel rims which use a different wheel nut. But when you don't have rims that take tapered wheel nuts to centre the rim, then the hub centre is what keeps the rims centred. Hence need for the spigot ring if using different ID hub set up.

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    I was referring to the need to enlarge the hub cap hole, not the hub centering hole.
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