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    AHH It's finally acting like a landrover

    My old girl has finally grown up and is finally leaving oil in driveway.


    Front ACE actuator has a boot full of oil so have ordered new actuator ace strainer and nanocom and am now off to cut up an 18mm socket to make LRT-60-009.
    quick question, do I have to remove whole assembly like it says to in rave or can I just replace actuator without removing torsion bar ( it looks like I can as long as I undo the roll bar link to provide clearance for tool to go on end of actuator)
    Then I have to check auto oil as yesterday on the highway if you floor it to overtake it would kick back and jump to 4000rpm but it was as if it wouldn't lock up to pick up speed took forever to go from 100 to 120 and wouldn't go any further , almost like trying to pick up speed going up a hill. there is oil all over the tranny sump but not enough to drip on ground
    Any advice or hints on either are appreciated
    Thanks
    wayne

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    Firstly thanks to roverlord for the excellent service, the parts I ordered turned up very speedily.
    Nanocom turned up today so have been playing with that all night.got a heap of error codes in the ace system that I forgot to write down but will worry about them after I change the front actuator.


    Got some error codes in engine and was wondering if anyone would know what they mean as have looked in the electronic diagnostic system pages and couldn't work out this one.

    31,4 injector 4 open circuit detected, (logged)

    the others I am assuming are

    3,7 air flow circuit (logged high) means clean MAF sensor when I change the air filter
    and

    20,5 EGR valve stuck closed , (logged)means no nasty hot gasses getting into my clean intake air.


    If anyone could inform me if I am barking up the wrong tree on the errors that I think I have figured out or what the injector error means (I think it means I have to go looking for a short somewhere) it would be appreciated.
    Thanks
    Wayne

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    Hi, for the injector fault code check if you have oil in the ECM red plug or in the upper plug in the head...if there is any replace the injector loom ASAP cos that's the reason, as long as it's open circuit it's not a short but a bad contact/interruption somewhere or in the worst case injector solenoid failure

    IMO only cleaning the MAF would not help much if you've got the air flow high fault code cos dirty sensor would give you low signals... it means you need a new MAF cos the filament is worn or the crankcase breather(depression controll) valve is "tired" and a lack or excess of crankcase gasses can mix up the MAF readings...if you know that the valve is old better replace it as preventative maintainance cos it's not expensive and you better have a well working one believe me

    the EGR fault code is normal as long as your's is de-EGR'd but if the EGR is still there check the valve cos it might be stuck due to excessive muck which can affect the inlet air flow and reduce performance, also if EGR is still on clean the MAP/IAT sensor cos it's certainly full of dirt
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    Thanks for that.
    I thought about the loom but I thought that would affect more than one injector. I'll get onto checking that tomorrow.


    Looks like a new valve and maf sensor to get ordered as I don't know any history for this car other than what I have done in the last couple of months which thankfully isn't much.


    Was planning on de egring it at a later date but it sounds like I am moving that up a bit so that will be de egr, intercooler clean, map clean and hopefully no broken bolts when I take the inlet manifold off to clean it.


    Now to hide this lot from the financier as she is still spewing about the new key, ace actuator and nanocom.


    Thanks again
    Wayne

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    Sorry to be a pain but could someone tell me what the nanocom measures turbo boost as (BAR or PSI) as when I floor it , it only gets up to 1.something otherwise it lives in the 0.somethings, I need to buy a proper boost guage
    Thanks
    wayne
    Last edited by wacoaus; 19th June 2015 at 07:03 AM. Reason: afterthought

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    on instrument mode you should get 1.3 bar at full load and 230kpa manifold pressure in fueling inputs, see the ambient pressure and how much it drops under full load cos faulty AAP sensor would limit the boost at 1 bar though you should get a fault code for that... make sure the wastegate rod is not stuck and the turbo hoses are not delaminated but as you still got EGR this can affect boost if it's clogged also the MAP sensor is presumably full of muck then it will read lower
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    Bummer

    Time to order new injector loom.
    Any hints on getting oil out of ecu , I've just got it sitting in sun in driveway with plugs down at the moment to drain.
    At least MAP sensor wasn't too bad just a little oil and tiny bit us carbon on it.
    Havent had a chance to pull intercooler hoses yet but I would say they are stuffed as they are still black rubber and the one going into the intercooler is that soft you can cave it in just pushing on it with one finger.
    What gets me though is that around town it goes fine just put your foot down and it takes off its just at 100 and you floor it to overtake and you look stupid when you puul out then have to pull back in because it juast aint there



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    Spray it clean with dedicated electric contact spray then let it dry in the sun, take off it's covers and if rte oil got into it clean it there too... use only genuine loom, get a set of silicone turbo hoses and replace them all, replace the depression controll valve too then you'lll have a different car
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    Remove the seal in the red plug until a couple of months after you fit the new injector harness and keep it handy in the vehicle. This will enable the oil coming in from the wires to escape without getting into the ecu. The oil will continue to capillary for a while after fitting the new harness. Just refit the seal if you intend to do any river crossings

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    Spray it clean with dedicated electric contact spray then let it dry in the sun, take off it's covers and if rte oil got into it clean it there too... use only genuine loom, get a set of silicone turbo hoses and replace them all, replace the depression controll valve too then you'lll have a different car
    Any particular contact cleaner you would recommend, I've just been using crc maf cleaner for everything as it's supposed to be safer on plastics. -.


    Got lucky, when I took the ecu lid off it was clean and dry.
    Just waiting for the rest o the parts to turn up and then its
    drop the sump to check the oil pump bolt has been done.
    Replace front ACE actuator and filter.
    New depression valve.
    Egr removal, clean intercooler and inlet manifold, fit silicon hoses.
    Change injector loom.
    Looks like I'm in for a busy week but hopefully should be good for a while other than possibly a maf sensor

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