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    Removing Timing cover

    Hi,
    I've done a lot of internet searching and there are many different opinions about what I need to do to get the timing cover off I'm looking for some clarity.

    1. Do I need to disconnect the oil pick-up? Some threads say you might as well drop the oil pan as you need to unbolt the oil pick-up. I would like to avoid doing that if I can.

    2. Do I have to remove the water pump? The water pump was replaced last year so if I do not have to disturb it that would be good.

    3. How do I get the crankshaft pulley bolt off (and back on again) without an impact driver or the oil pan removed?

    4. If the best way to remove the crankshaft pulley is with an impact driver then I'll get one. But how do I stop the engine rotating as I turn the nut?

    5. what gaskets and seals do I need? I'm not looking at replacing the timing chain as it was done recently, just the timing cover gasket.

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    Assuming it's a V8 then yes you need to take off the sump first. I tried to remove the cover off a blown up engine and it broke the pickup pipe because I had no idea it was different to the earlier models...

    To lock the crank you'll of course have excellent access to the crankshaft and can insert a strategic block of wood somewhere. Otherwise there should be some way you can access the back of the flywheel perhaps via the starter motor hole. A 1 metre pipe handle on a 3/4 drive socket and bar will shift the crank bolt no worries. Take the water pump off anyway as the gasket will probably leak if you don't.

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    That was what I was planning.

    How do I stop the crank shaft nut from turning the engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    To lock the crank you'll of course have excellent access to the crankshaft and can insert a strategic block of wood somewhere. Otherwise there should be some way you can access the back of the flywheel perhaps via the starter motor hole.
    This is the answer to that question I think.

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    There is another way that is a little risky. Put the socket on the end of a breaker bar and place it between the nut and a chassis rail.

    Remove the spark plug lead from the coil. Turn engine over ever so slightly to undo the nut.

    JUST MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHICH WAY THE ENGINE TURNS SO YOU HAVE THE SOCKET AND BREAKER BAR ON THE RIGHT CHASSIS RAIL. Otherwise you may end up with a breaker bar through your radiator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzman View Post
    There is another way that is a little risky. Put the socket on the end of a breaker bar and place it between the nut and a chassis rail.
    Apart from the coil pack being tricky to get to I'm not one for risks as the car is our daily driver.

    I'm still confused about the oil pick-up.

    What is it and do I need to disconnect it? I cannot find any reference to it in the rave manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullible View Post
    Apart from the coil pack being tricky to get to I'm not one for risks as the car is our daily driver.

    I'm still confused about the oil pick-up.

    What is it and do I need to disconnect it? I cannot find any reference to it in the rave manual.
    The oil pickup is the pipe that extends from the bottom of the sump to the oil pump, ie it picks up the oil that is hopefully in your sump. Break that and you'll have no way of getting oil pressure. It has a bolted join to the oil pump that is only accessible with the sump off, unless there are two versions of the THOR engine (which I doubt).

    Are you sure that you are knowledgeable enough to attempt this job?

    https://books.google.com.au/books?id...emoval&f=false

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post

    Are you sure that you are knowledgeable enough to attempt this job?
    I'm not convince that I am knowledgeable enough. That is why I'm asking lots of questions. I've read a number of posts about the job and each seems to tackle it in a different way and some mention oil pick-ups and some do not.

    I may have to wait until my next oil change is due and get it done professionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullible View Post
    I'm not convince that I am knowledgeable enough. That is why I'm asking lots of questions. I've read a number of posts about the job and each seems to tackle it in a different way and some mention oil pick-ups and some do not.

    I may have to wait until my next oil change is due and get it done professionally.
    Without trying to sound discouraging it might be a wise decision. May I also suggest you take it to someone who works on Land Rovers? And I don't necessarily mean a dealership mechanic as many are simply filter spinners and might not know the job either.

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