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    Where did the oil go? TD5

    Hello all,
    I have a TD5 that got the head gasket etc fixed by Ritter about 10k kms ago. (10,037kms ago) About a week ago, up in Echuca, I checked the oil level and the dip stick was halfway between the high and low level marks. Today I checked it and the oil was just above the low mark. Ritter put in Castrol Magnatec 5w40, Today I added a litre of Magnatec 10w40. I do not have an oil leak. The underside is clean. No drips. Most of my driving is 7kms twice a day to work, and I am thinking, from my old Holden days that after a good run, the volatiles in the oil will boil off. Is this a reason?
    I do not see smoke from the rear whilst driving, unless uphill with the foot down.

    Thanks

    Julian
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    Unlikely to be the volatiles wafting off in the breeze Modern oils dont do that. If the engine oil has been changed regularly with another brand/grade of oil that can account sometimes for it. The engine has to "work in" to the new type of oil. If you know the old type that was used you can try it at the next change and see if any thing happens. other than that give it a few thousand k;s ( yes it can take that long) and see if it gets better.
    1 of the reasons I always stay with the orig oil if possible and always recommend others too.
    Cheers Scott

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    I didn't think it was the volatiles wafting away. I'll stick with the Magnatec for now. I'm suprised to have run up 10k kms in 5 months as most of the time it is the 7km work run.
    I'll see how the next 10k kms go.
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    Freelander 2 2011, manual, the daughter calls it Perri
    Before I had a Land Rover I did not have any torque wrenches. Now I have three.
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    if its not leaking out of the engine its going one of 4 places, in no particular order

    1. past the rings
    2. past the turbo seal
    3. out the crankcase ventilator into the inlet trunk.
    4. past a valve seal.
    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    if its not leaking out of the engine its going one of 4 places, in no particular order

    1. past the rings
    2. past the turbo seal
    3. out the crankcase ventilator into the inlet trunk.
    4. past a valve seal.
    Any way of determining which option?
    If it's the rings, I'm rooted,
    If it's a valve seal, I guess take off the head? again rooted
    turbo seal should be fixable for me I guess.
    Hhhmmm

    Cheers Bo
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    Freelander 2 2011, manual, the daughter calls it Perri
    Before I had a Land Rover I did not have any torque wrenches. Now I have three.
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    You might want to get a bit scientific and check exactly how much your using before doomsday scenarios, was the car switched off the same amount of time both times you checked?, was it level ,how many kilometres between checks, . etc.
    Run engine at operating temp and unscrew oil cap , how much blowby do you have , if not much , then I wouldn't stress too much, if its lots then most likely your compression rings are gone . It is possible to burn oil even if you have no blow by if you have a stuck or clogged oil control ring( this is unlikely in a td5) .
    If you need to do valve seals the head doesn't have to come off, were they done with the head gasket?
    If you are burning oil you (or someone behind you) should smell it over the diesel smell

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    Valve stem seal replaced as part of the work on the head.
    I'll check the oil level when parked at the same spot and start gathering data.
    I'll check the blow by as well.
    The car has not used any oil for about 8.5 to 9k including a trip to Canberra and back.
    I do not see or smell oil from the rear. A bit of black smoke when revved up slightly, not much at all. (Oil smoke would be blue?)

    Thanks for the advice Discorevy.
    D2a Td5 Manual, Chawton White. aka "Daisy"
    Build date 11th Oct 2003
    Freelander 2 2011, manual, the daughter calls it Perri
    Before I had a Land Rover I did not have any torque wrenches. Now I have three.
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    2x 7k runs a day in a td5 is not a good run. hell its probably barely enough for it to put the charge back into the battery.

    yes, oil burning in a diesel at idle is blueish, when its working it tends to black with higher EGT and if it gets bad enough a runaway engine.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


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    No blow by

    I've removed the oil filler cap with the engine running at operating temperature. No blow by visible. I can't feel any movement of gas out past my fingers.


    As for the 7k to work run, I guess I'll have to take a longer route to work then :-)

    Cheers

    Julian
    D2a Td5 Manual, Chawton White. aka "Daisy"
    Build date 11th Oct 2003
    Freelander 2 2011, manual, the daughter calls it Perri
    Before I had a Land Rover I did not have any torque wrenches. Now I have three.
    LROCV #1410

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    the td5, IMHO, likes a good drive at least once a week. I draw the line at around a 50K trip of mixed driving and preferably with some decent hill work or hauling a trailer.

    or you could just be a little more "spirited" in your vehicle operation in say 3rd gear in the 60/80 zones.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
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