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    TD5 fuel pressure and install of gauge fittings

    while I was cleaning my fuel system cleaned pick up /changed filter .cleaned screen inside the head
    the gauze screen showed carbon deposits so I also renewed injector seals also fuel pump had a whirring sound with is now gone


    I thought I may install a pressure gauge while I have the regulator off


    I decided to drill and tap a hole in the regulator on the return side.. I selected the return side for personal reasons # 1 got told it cant be done by a landrover dealer/mechanic he said you need to install a pressure gauge to the inlet side .fair enough ...but if the gauze filter was to ever block up would still show fuel pressure

    here is some pics of the regulator


    gauge is temporarily mounted at the moment until the gauge mounts arrive










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    Good choice of beverage!

    Back on track, what pressure do U exepect to see on the return side?

    I had a pressure gauge temp mounted in the fuel temp sender hole as I was diagnosing a possibly failed pump, 65psi give or take.

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    A guage in the return line after the regulator may show low fuel pressure if the regulator fails or the strainer blocks but wont help indicate pump pressure/operation is normal?

    And I dont think legally one can mount a mechanical fuel pressure guage inside the cabin of modern cars due to inherent risk of fuel leak

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    On the return side should be the difference between the pump's output which is between 4.5 - 6.5 bar and the regulated rail pressure of 4 bar so a gauge there will show between 0.5 and 2.5 bar and i dont see the relevance of that reading, for fuel pump HP output check IMO it's enough to fit a T piece like this https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p...-1-5-tp-m12x15 for the temp sensor and a switch like this https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p...i-set-m-ops-35 connected to a LED in a visible place on the binnacle, this way if the pressure drops below the preset limit you'll have the warning...or if you want to be scrupulous you can fit a pressure transducer and a gauge which doesnt imply fuel in the cabin
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    giving my experience on road trains nearly all fuel pressure readings are taking after the head before any regulator


    is best to measure fuel pressure in the head than measuring before the head other wise why not install a gauge at the pressure side of the fuel tank
    why measure fuel line pressure when you can measure injector pressure


    the flow direction on the td5 pressure regulator the return goes back to the regulator housing this holds pressure in the head before sending back to tank


    the only reason I installed a pressure gauge is that my fuel pump has been screaming like a cat for 9 months I wanted to test pressures before purchasing another pump lucky I found this forum and it actually turned out to be combustion washers (learn something new every day) normally on roadtrains the combustion washers allow fuel to bleed back and I never had fuel back issues


    I do have gauge temporarily installed in the cab ,,,and to be honest I like it,,, my pump is that silent the pressure gauge tells me otherwise


    with ignition on only the pressure reads 55 psi
    with engine idling pressure is 55 psi


    while driving and on boost pressure drops to 50 psi minimum


    off the accelerator and then is sits back at 55psi


    ps cold mornings first start up I have seen 60 psi or just shy of 60 psi
    I can only put this down to the regulator opening up more once warmed up and fades off to 55psi @ idle

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    Quote Originally Posted by geordiepride View Post
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    the flow direction on the td5 pressure regulator the return goes back to the regulator housing this holds pressure in the head before sending back to tank

    You are right, i stand corrected...didnt think of the flow just concentrated on the "return" thing... yes you should have HP at that position cos it's before the FPR valve is releasing the excess back to tank
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    Can I ask why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by twr7cx View Post
    Can I ask why?
    I had fuel pump screaming noises so I decided to clean the full fuel system
    cleaned tank and pick ups check valves in filter housings new fuel filter and cleaned screen in head... my next option was to purchase a new fuel pump


    before purchasing a new fuel pump I decided to install a pressure
    gauge .as it sounded like my fuel pump was cavitating... while I had the regulator off I found some fittings and an old oil pressure gauge laying in my shed so no cost was spent


    an easier way would be to use a T PEICE in fuel line but I was limited on resources 12 @ night as I work shift work ....turned out to be my injector seals making my fuel pump scream


    while I was purchasing my injector seals the landrover mechanic also said it CANT be done installing a gauge there .mentioned in my first post

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