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    2004 TD5 Auto

    Hi team

    I have tried a search but lots of spurious items coming up

    I'm pretty sure the auto needs replacing

    It does that funny , not always engaging forward or reverse intermittently but it has never failed to do so after running through 1st to park or giving a few revs

    It may have also started doing a driveline vibration very occasionally

    actually feels like front end but not sure

    Not consistant with the vibration thing

    Anyways , I think I might bite the bullett and do the auto

    Would the repair include the torque converter

    Any idea of what it will cost

    I think I had a price of $6500 for the whole job from A and B

    They serviced it back it Feb 2016 and said it had no major issues with clutch packs etc but did experience the non engaging issue

    I might have to go to Manuel auto in Thomstown , just from a drop off and pick up perspective

    Pete G

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    Hi, run a stall test on it before you spend big money:
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    How many kms on it? has it done heavy towing? colour of trans oil still a healthy colour or very dark?


    Reason for not always selecting gear or changing up easily is the valve spools get very hard to move in their bores, when I did my trans (overhauled it myself and made some internal changes) just over a year ago the spools were very hard to get out once cleaned spools were easy to move in the bores.
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    Thanks team

    1. Sierra

    Stall test proved this out

    Started out low for 3 seconds (1400 rpm) but when I think I heard the turbo come on , it sat at 2750 rpm consistent

    2. Stevo

    268,000kms
    Unknown history prior to my ownership in Jan 2016
    I havent done any heavy towing since buying it
    Haven't checked the trans oil condition
    Do I do that through the filler/level plug with a bit of string or just top it up if necessary and see what comes out?
    Can the valve spools be serviced if the auto is still in the car ?

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    since you have just bought it, maybe a good idea to give it a service change all filters and check oil levels in transfer case as these are prone to leak and only hold a small amount of oil.


    order a trans filter and trans sump gasket drop the oil and remove trans sump, remove filter and replace, pull apart old filter and also check bottom of sump for debris etc.


    it will give you an idea and does not hurt to do the oils in all compartments then you know when things are done.
    disco seriesII mods so far:-bullbar,hyd winch,
    detriot locker,lsd front,C.D.L kit,chipped and bigger intercooler,2" lift,rock sliders, lsd in transfer case, modified auto trans.

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    Thanks Stevo
    I bought it in Jan 2016
    All the fluids were done then
    Engine , trans, diffs , radiator
    About 2 months later , I had A and B autos give the trans a service and test including filters etc
    They reported that the clutch packs and the whole auto was in great shape
    They felt it had been rebuilt
    The only issue to date ( other than the latest vibration , which may not be auto at all) is the intermittent valve spool thing
    That has always been overcome by applying the brake and adding a few revs to get them to seat or lift as the case may be

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    the valve bank can be pulled out without removing trans, a bit of a pain to do and you have to watch which bolts you remove, I have the info somewhere will see if I can dig it up on weekend (work long hours ).


    still would look at pulling filter out and pull it apart see if it is full of clutch material, if oil and filter clean maybe look at pulling valve block out and stripping it may not have been done when(if) trans was reconditioned, a much cheaper option. check out the BMW sites they have the same trans also google 22hp4e valve block or different combos of that.
    disco seriesII mods so far:-bullbar,hyd winch,
    detriot locker,lsd front,C.D.L kit,chipped and bigger intercooler,2" lift,rock sliders, lsd in transfer case, modified auto trans.

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    Thanks Stevo
    Will do all of that
    Pete

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    Pete

    A and B quoted me $200 for a diagnostic assessment.

    Might be worth doing.

    Its also my understanding, and my experience in two cases supports this, that the ZF gearbox lasts about 250k plus or minus before it fails.

    Bob

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    Thanks Bob

    The car is currently down at Rova Range and the team are doing a service and engine mounts and some brake rotors and stuff

    They haven't had a chance to road test above 90 kmh yet but they will do soon

    They commented that for all intents and purposes , the auto changes up and down as it should and up to 70kmh it performs exactly as required

    No clunks, no slipping . Smooth as a bubbies bum

    A and B did a test back in Feb(?) 2016 and found no yucky fluids or bits of transmission or stuff or any problems ( other than spools)

    Hopefully , it was some sort of frequency / vibration issue with the engine mounts

    If not , I will get Manuel Autos in Thomastown to check it out. I live not far from there

    They gave me a good price on worst case scenario

    Geez, the car will be just about perfect when I go to trade or sell before June this year

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