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    Boost gauge piping

    I couldn't quite get a definitive answer from my searching. So was just wondering what others thought.


    I’m just about to install a boost gauge. Tapping into the air intake manifold I understand is preferable, but the metal filings make me a bit nervous (and I don’t really want to remove the intake manifold for this). The spacer on the intake to silicon hose that I ended up with after the EGR delete is too thin to tap, but I guess the other solution is to get someone to tig weld on some metal to allow for this (or buy a stainless barb fitting and weld it on).

    $60 for this, just seems excessive.
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    So is there any point in tapping into the line running from the waste gate modulator and intake pipe (before the intercooler). Or am I just wasting my time.

    I’ve done the following:

    Silicon hose upgrades
    De-cat
    EGR deleted
    Provent

    I have EGT gauge installed and wanted to add boost to the gauge.

    I’m planning on getting a TD5inside map done. Probably just stage 2. Will a potentially inaccurate boost reading at the gauge (due to inter cooler loss) really be much of an issue for me. I only really want it to monitor things, so weather the actual boost at the manifold is out a few PSI to my gauge is probably not an issue for me.

    Cheers

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    Grease, oh, and not the movie

    If you drill into the inlet manifold to fit the take off, the drill should lift out the material removed.

    Then start with a tapered tap BUT, coat the tap with grease, the swarf will then stick to the grease and not fall inside the manifold. Once the thread is partially cut screw the tap back out, clean it, re grease it and cut the thread full depth. You may prefer to do this several times, bit by bit. Be careful to keep both the drill and the tap square with the manifold.

    As there is plenty of depth in the manifold you should be able to get away with the taper tap and not need a medium or bottoming tap.


    Cheers

    Mike

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    Just tee in off one of the boost modulator hoses. Job done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPROVER View Post
    Just tee in off one of the boost modulator hoses. Job done!
    ...... the one that terminates at the wastegate [wink]
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    Quote Originally Posted by onebob View Post
    ...... the one that terminates at the wastegate [wink]
    And ahhh...make sure you use the right hose off the modulator other wise your boost gauge will read funny buggers. Ask me how i know. Boost gauge piping Boost gauge piping

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPROVER View Post
    And ahhh...make sure you use the right hose off the modulator other wise your boost gauge will read funny buggers. Ask me how i know. Boost gauge piping Boost gauge piping
    do you find the boost readings you get are accurate from there rather than at the manifold?

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    They are spot on. And exactly the same reading as my nanocom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPROVER View Post
    They are spot on. And exactly the same reading as my nanocom.
    Luck rather than design...

    Your inlet manifold should most of the time read slightly less... parasitic loss through the plumbing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nismine01 View Post
    If you drill into the inlet manifold to fit the take off, the drill should lift out the material removed.

    Then start with a tapered tap BUT, coat the tap with grease, the swarf will then stick to the grease and not fall inside the manifold. Once the thread is partially cut screw the tap back out, clean it, re grease it and cut the thread full depth. You may prefer to do this several times, bit by bit. Be careful to keep both the drill and the tap square with the manifold.

    As there is plenty of depth in the manifold you should be able to get away with the taper tap and not need a medium or bottoming tap.


    Cheers

    Mike
    thanks Mike. yes I was thinking of doing it that way, maybe pull the spacer off and run a vac in there to be doubly sure. But I would still be nervous

    I think I might get a stainless barb and get a family friend tig weld it on to the spacer for me. But the spacer up to the manifold is pretty thin walled. Beyond my welding skills.

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    What I said a year ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Luck rather than design...

    Your inlet manifold should most of the time read slightly less... parasitic loss through the plumbing..
    I believe the waste gate actuating pressure should be taken from the inlet manifold for the very reason espoused by Tombie above.

    The further away from the source, be it electricity, water or, in this case, air pressure the lower it will be because of the length of travel and restrictions along the way.

    I have not done it yet, (I seem to think far too long rather than do things) but I intend to move the pressure line to the rear of the inlet manifold to govern the waste gate. I believe this will ensure the engine gets the maximum boost.

    Cheers

    Mike

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