Thread: Replacing rear pads and discs. Any traps for the unwary?

Originally Posted by AK83

Speaking of foibles .. have you tried to remove the front seats yet!?

those bolt heads are absolute doozies!

I have recently removed the front driver seat to replace the leather base. It was relatively painless believe it or not. Can't remember what tools I used but I just remember not having any problems.

Do do agree they look like they've got headache written all over them.

Wasn't saying they were hard .. just the questionable engineering motive behind why have the two front torx heads, and those goofy looking 'hex' bolts(external torx) for the two rears?
Firstly, why not just use torx for all four if they're required for the fronts for clearance.
Turns out that those two rears are fine with standard hex or double hex 12mm(I think) tools, but seeing them caused brother and myself a bit of headscratching on what tool they needed.

Strangely tho, we have MAN trucks at work, and I notice that those strange 'external torx' hex heads are common on the wheel bearings/hub assemblies.

I bought a set of torx sockets from autopro or supercheap auto for about $50.
They come with allen keys that fit into the sockets as well and i went for the ones with the hole in the end of the key for doing those wierd roof rack bolts.
Using the correct tool for the job is important to me, Not only because I won't damage the vehicle I have much less chance skinning my knuckles when some force is needed to remove bits and pieces as well.
You don't need that many special tools to work on a D2 But a set of torx tools come in very handy and they don't have to cost an arm and a leg either

Originally Posted by trout1105

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You don't need that many special tools to work on a D2 But a set of torx tools come in very handy and they don't have to cost an arm and a leg either

Torx are nothing special in themselves, but those external torx fixings! ... never seen them until the D2 18 months ago.

Torx fixings are a likeable drive type.
On the other hand, those damned Allen head fixings should be chucked.

The first time I encountered a double hex bolt was when rebuilding a Jeep Warner gearbox when I was about twenty or twenty one. (A very long time ago)
I had no idea what the hell it was, and that gearbox was out of a '74 CJ.
I won't recount what I used to undo it....

Go forward in time another five or six years and I discover the wonderful world of aircraft hardware while working on race cars. Double hex, reduced head NAS bolts are the ultra high tensile babies an ex-aircraft mechanic mate told me they'd christened 'space shuttle bolts' at Qantas.



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Originally Posted by rick130

The first time I encountered a double hex bolt was when rebuilding a Jeep Warner gearbox when I was about twenty or twenty one. (A very long time ago)
I had no idea what the hell it was, and that gearbox was out of a '74 CJ.
I won't recount what I used to undo it....

Go forward in time another five or six years and I discover the wonderful world of aircraft hardware while working on race cars. Double hex, reduced head NAS bolts are the ultra high tensile babies an ex-aircraft mechanic mate told me they'd christened 'space shuttle bolts' at Qantas.



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Re: the jeep gearbox do you mean E torx bolts rick ?, I thought they used those. Or was that just the bell housing?

I've seen those double hex aircraft bolts , can see why they were referred to as space shuttle bolts.

Anyone who can't identify the correct tool to use on a bolt head should probably stick to using squeaky plastic hammers.

Originally Posted by bee utey

Anyone who can't identify the correct tool to use on a bolt head should probably stick to using squeaky plastic hammers.

probably myself included .. but some consideration should be granted tho.

In the case of the front seat rear bolts, as far as I'm aware on the D2 so far that is, they are the only instance of the use of E-torx fittings.
Torx fittings abound in various places on the vehicle.
I guess thats the "beeutey" of the interweb .. a shining light on what was once a dark art.