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    What exactly are you not agreeing with Phillip? The modulator itself, or the fact that you'd modified the system, thus making the modulator redundant.
    I am disagreeing with TWR7x.

    The modulator may be effective up to 15PSI, and my theory is that it is there to reduce nox, so that more fuel can be delivered and that is what causes the extra 40Nm.

    If you wish to exceed 15PSI then in the opinion of the experts it is not the best idea to retain the modulator and screw up the wastegate rod.

    This was discussed some time ago by some members who are very conversant with the TD5 mapping and the conclusion was that probably the better approach was to bypass the modulator and fit a manual wastegate controller , as the codes of the ECU had not at that time been interpreted to allow the modulator to act above 15 PSI. The "screw the rod mod was seen as less than ideal".
    I have not seen anything on this forum since that indicates that the situation has changed
    Anyway , I am happy with mine.

    Regards PhilipA

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I am disagreeing with TWR7x.

    The modulator may be effective up to 15PSI, and my theory is that it is there to reduce nox, so that more fuel can be delivered and that is what causes the extra 40Nm.

    If you wish to exceed 15PSI then in the opinion of the experts it is not the best idea to retain the modulator and screw up the wastegate rod.

    This was discussed some time ago by some members who are very conversant with the TD5 mapping and the conclusion was that probably the better approach was to bypass the modulator and fit a manual wastegate controller , as the codes of the ECU had not at that time been interpreted to allow the modulator to act above 15 PSI. The "screw the rod mod was seen as less than ideal".
    I have not seen anything on this forum since that indicates that the situation has changed
    Anyway , I am happy with mine.

    Regards PhilipA
    Cool bananas, cheers. turbo waste gate boost controler

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I am disagreeing with TWR7x.

    The modulator may be effective up to 15PSI, and my theory is that it is there to reduce nox, so that more fuel can be delivered and that is what causes the extra 40Nm.

    If you wish to exceed 15PSI then in the opinion of the experts it is not the best idea to retain the modulator and screw up the wastegate rod.

    This was discussed some time ago by some members who are very conversant with the TD5 mapping and the conclusion was that probably the better approach was to bypass the modulator and fit a manual wastegate controller , as the codes of the ECU had not at that time been interpreted to allow the modulator to act above 15 PSI. The "screw the rod mod was seen as less than ideal".
    I have not seen anything on this forum since that indicates that the situation has changed
    Anyway , I am happy with mine.

    Regards PhilipA
    The situation has most definitely changed, I'm running 1.9 bar boost with mine, and the modulator maps have been changed to suit.
    I have no mbc at all, I was running 2.2 bar....but I got nervous, as did my auto.

    Cheers
    James

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    The situation has most definitely changed, I'm running 1.9 bar boost with mine, and the modulator maps have been changed to suit.
    I have no mbc at all, I was running 2.2 bar....but I got nervous, as did my auto.

    Cheers
    Hi, so where can I access the revised ecu maps?
    Another question.
    From earlier posts the current turbo becomes inefficient at about 1.6 or so atmospheres. do you have a hybrid turbo fitted?

    Yet another question. Offtrack edited my ECU to go to the upper limits of MAF and boost sensor. How have you modded the ECU to allow for greater limits, particularly the MAF?
    I see that in the UK BAS fit another boost sensor with higher scaling. I understood that the map had to be rescaled in the ECU to do this, but it is presented as a straight plug and play. Any knowledge of this?

    Regards PhilipA

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    As my td5inside tune I run 30psi on my CR hybrid turbo and my maf is still in range, runs great and good fuel economy too

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Hi, so where can I access the revised ecu maps?
    Another question.
    From earlier posts the current turbo becomes inefficient at about 1.6 or so atmospheres. do you have a hybrid turbo fitted?

    Yet another question. Offtrack edited my ECU to go to the upper limits of MAF and boost sensor. How have you modded the ECU to allow for greater limits, particularly the MAF?
    I see that in the UK BAS fit another boost sensor with higher scaling. I understood that the map had to be rescaled in the ECU to do this, but it is presented as a straight plug and play. Any knowledge of this?

    Regards PhilipA
    I forgot, I've got an uprated map sensor as well.

    I've been running a hybrid turbo for some time now, and yes you are correct,I can't remember where the stock turbo starts making just extra heat (and is a little hard to find documentation for)...

    But of course a hybrid, and preferably a vnt will pump more air with less heat, which gives higher aircharge in the cylinder, but will display/create less boost, this is ideal.

    If you research speed density style fueling systems it will explain it much better than I can.

    Im also on an EU2 motor with the high boost, so MAF out of range doesn't matter so much, although I haven't seen it yet. I haven't had time/money to do the other td5s floating around my place as yet, they are all EU3, but I have got them turned up fairly well also, with no MAF errors.

    Cheers
    James

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