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    Brakes failed !

    Hi guys, I haven't posted for a while, maybe a good thing, been doing work as was planning a trip from Melbourne to Cooktown, but 2nd lockdown has put a dampener on that now.

    Part of getting ready I changed my pads all round, and my rear left brakes cylinder was leaking so I replaced it with an old one I had from when I broker the diff and replaced the axle. I didn't do a bleed after.

    All was great, the new pads seems to make the brake pedal more progressive, more feel than before - happy camper.

    Just picking up my daughter yesterday, pulling into the school and total brake failure. Very lucky only going 4kms and used the handbrake.

    Not going to go into the story of the recovery service, the bad attitude of the recovery driver after waiting 3 hours, just to say in the end, I said I didn't want his help with attitude like that and so I drove home in low range, used the box, and kept pulling over when anyone was coming near. All went without event and the only plus is this means the Discovery has never failed to get me home yet.

    Basically when I push my pedal, it goes all the way to the floor and doesn't stop the car, even when I pump it. I am not good with brakes, so today I changed the rear brake cylinder over to to the other spare I had, I think there was evidence of leaking, there was some thick dark mud in the wheel well, not like that the other side.

    I have started trying to bleed the brakes too, started off with front left, and cannot even get any fluid to come out of it when using Nanocom or pumping the pedal. I tried the previously dodgy rear left after and got fluid coming out of that.

    Feeling very frustrated right now, totally out of my comfort zone, so at the point I don't know what to try, or what I have missed. I think the best bet now is to try and get a mobile mechanic out, are there any recommendations for the Eltham / Warrandyte area or anyone in Melbourne who is good at discovery's ?

    Greatly appreciate any help as I have to get back to the school runs asap. Thank you. Matt.
    2003 D2a Auto, TD5inside Stage 2 re-map, HD Torque converter, CHRA turbo core, de-cat, mid-muffler gone, silicon hoses, EGR removed, 265/75/16ís, amp, underseat sub, 8 speakers, EGT / Boost gauge plus Nanocom.

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    It's a dual system, so if it is a caliper issue the other system will still work. I'd be looking at the master cylinder. A m/c issue does not eliminate a caliper problem, but start at the beginning.
    I don't know what ABS failure results and symptoms could be.
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    I donít understand why you would replace safety critical parts with second hand ones, especially of unknown quality
    If you are not confident get the brakes done by a specialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B View Post
    I donít understand why you would replace safety critical parts with second hand ones, especially of unknown quality
    If you are not confident get the brakes done by a specialist.
    I agree, Dont muck around with the brakes if you are not 100% certain of what you are doing.
    It is nearly impossible to stop in an emergancy with no brakes and an auto box, Take it to a brake specialist

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    Why are you risking the lives of yourself, your family and other road users??? 🤬🤬🤬 I make no apologies for calling you an arrogant fool for driving that vehicle on a public road in that state.
    I So cannot wait for licenced operators ONLY being allowed to work on brakes and other safety systems. Enforceable by LAW.

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    Mate I think you escaped a bullet. If you are unsure of what your doing "DONT" I can attest to the fact that there is plenty of help to be had via this site. I also know there are plenty of members who would go out of their way to come over and help you out if you asked for helped. I shall not harp on but have a think of what the possible consequence could have been. My go to mantra to people asking for advice is Google is your friend. Baz
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    Brakes Failed

    Thanks Ian, yes I had a brief look today, used RAVE, youtube and this forum, I recognize I am out of my depth on this and I am hoping someone can recommend some specialist mobile help.

    Thank you, Matt.
    2003 D2a Auto, TD5inside Stage 2 re-map, HD Torque converter, CHRA turbo core, de-cat, mid-muffler gone, silicon hoses, EGR removed, 265/75/16ís, amp, underseat sub, 8 speakers, EGT / Boost gauge plus Nanocom.

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    You do realise there's no surf in Cooktown, don't you Matt?
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    Brakes Failed

    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    You do realise there's no surf in Cooktown, don't you Matt?
    Thanks Ian, I came to Australia 16 years ago and lived in Sydney to begin with, learned to surf and I am an Arsenal football supporter, also known as the gooners.

    Just for the record, there was no-one else in the car with me, and I only did it where there was an escape-route for me if needed which was diving off the side of the road into the bush. No houses, lamp-posts, driveways, out in the sticks. I drove the whole way in low-range 3rd gear, no car ever had to wait behind me as a country road and could see them and pull over. Try it sometime and you might be surprised how quickly in low range 2nd and the handbrake - like you stop. Immediately ! I tried it out in the car park before setting-off until I was satisfied with great care I would not be a danger to other road users, taking into account the time, conditions, and the route. We are in Lockdown here and the roads are dead where we live at 7.00pm.

    I know it was the wrong thing to do, hence I originally stuck with it and waited 3 and a half hours for road-assist and then a recovery truck before some twat turned up with a big chip and attitude problem and refused to make a simple turn into a school carpark where lorries make deliveries every day of the week. This left me stranded. It is 3km on a country back road from the school to home, I took my time about it.

    I take the other comments posted about me, fair enough, but sure there are plenty of people out there who have sped, driven over the limit with kids in the car, smoked pot and driven etc etc. Some people might never drive with crap brakes but think it is fine to hit their kids or abuse their wives. We are each on our own journey, I was just being honest and was hoping someone might be able to help.
    2003 D2a Auto, TD5inside Stage 2 re-map, HD Torque converter, CHRA turbo core, de-cat, mid-muffler gone, silicon hoses, EGR removed, 265/75/16ís, amp, underseat sub, 8 speakers, EGT / Boost gauge plus Nanocom.

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    If I was able to leave my suburb I would of come around to give you a hand. I have family in warrandyte as well. Definitely sounds like you have air in the system. I just changed my brake master cylinder on the weekend as the original one was leaking. Took awhile to get the air out of the system. It took a bit to do the rears but I got there in the end.
    What are you using to bleed the brakes?

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