Thread: Leaking like a sieve

I (personally) think silicon hoses are worth the effort.

From your other posts, can we assume yours is a TD5?
If so, the silicon hose coolant set that uses a metal T-piece for the top hose with integral bleeder nut is much more 'durable' than the standard TD5 bleeder 'needle'.
I assume when new the standard bleeder works just fine, but give a few thousand hot-cold cycles, and being plastic it disintegrates quite readily.
(V8 version is plastic, but more sturdy than TD5).

If you decide to go with silicon hoses for coolant, don't assume they will just fit. Some of the hoses may need to be trimmed a little to fit right, otherwise they should offer some additional durability over time.
That is, if you don't have 'Landrover patience' .. and instead prefer to dump a vehicle after a few faults .. ie. in a few years, you probably won't see the longer lived benefit of fitting silicon hoses.

Initially there is no benefit to either, in that both types are new and work fine. It's only over many years and lots of heat/cold cycles where rubber is more likely perish in some way .. where silicon is far less likely too.

When you do decide to do the hoses, don't skimp on clamps.

considering the 3000 car has cost me 12000 extra.... I think I will have to be buried in this car.
just another thing to the longevity of the car, it is a comfortable car to drive .... just wish previous owners gave a **** so it wasnt hitting the back pocket

Originally Posted by el_jefe

considering the 3000 car has cost me 12000 extra.... I think I will have to be buried in this car.
.....

You probably came out on top then.

It seems that in Tojoland ... paying $15K on a 20yo vehicle and then needing another $16-26K on top to bring it up to scratch is normal!

You've come in at under the cost of an alternative vehicle alone, and a D2 is far more refined than (say) a 100series, although 100 series is OK for a Jap 4WD ... so you've saved yourself at least $16K, maybe even $26K.

(if you're wondering what I'm referring too with the references to the Tojo and those figures, you need to be aware of Andrew St Pierre White(4XOverland) and his year old series on his 100 series cruiser! ... hahaha


But, when buying a cheap Landrover ... there's always a catch to be aware of, and as you've found out it's almost always related to previous owners lack of full understanding.

My brother went through a similar process, I think he's spent approx $7K to sort silly issues that should never have arisen. And we also wasted at least $1K in trying to fix repairs that we misdiagnosed too.
If you don't already have one, a nanocom is quite the handy tool to have in your possession, and I think, the most important vehicle specific tool for the TD5.

Originally Posted by el_jefe

As most things perish over time the oil lines and coolant hoses have started to break down and leak.

Will eventually be replacing the intercooler and the hoses.

are the silicone hoses worth while? are there better ones, also worth while just sticking with genuine oil lines or are there better ones (more durable lines)

Have fitted silicone hoses on 4 vehicles so far and they do seem more robust and tolerate heat better,
BUT, they are "slippery", and need to be well clamped.
They appear to stay on D2's better than on my D3, where I had to re-fit one that slid off.
Others have told me they have had them come off their D3's, so clamp them well.

For coolant I feel that the genuine rubber hoses are generally more robust except for the top hose and probably the hidden one off the oil cooler.
The genuine top hose is a known leaker these days, silicon is the go there and I reckon with the heat exposure from the turbo, silicon is the go with the oil cooler one behind the turbo.

If using silicon for coolant it needs to have a flurosilicone liner, the 2HEA that was present in the original OAT formulation softens and deteriorates silicone.

Silicon really isn't compatible with oil at oil, I'd never use it there.

Sorry I didnt mean silicone for the oil, was meaning more "are the genuine oil lines best or are there better after market ones"

and what are better silicone hoses for intercooler, coolant