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    Quote Originally Posted by RRT;[URL="tel:3183306"
    3183306[/URL]]Just did some more measurements and the outlet of the Airbox is 3" from the internal smallest diameter and this comes to a circumference of approx 27cm. The oval intake and the intake to the front panels have a circumference (outer) of 28cm so basically an oval 3" circle if you get I mean!

    The Safari snorkel at the inlet (basically the only place that is round) is 3" although the 'volume' of the main chamber appears to be bigger than this, hmmm.

    The Patrol intake is 3.5" so have you used a reducer to connect the pipe to the 'safari'? The picture looks like two different silicon tubes. Would a 90 degree 3.5" reducing to 3" work?

    As per you pic, it would appear that it does not require relocation of the bonnet alarm or the power steering ace reservoir as you had done previously as the silicon connector between the air box and out to the snorkel would be able to be compressed somewhat to fit, would you agree?


    Know for mine which a different position of the turbo intake
    Loved how you mentioned panel beating, are you talking about thumping the ridge down as it appears that height is not necessarily an issue with the top of the airbox below the level of the radiator.




    Would Think I will be a using a reducer off the air cleaner and recut the pipe the pipe to the standard inlet for simplicity of keeping the vac outlet and the catch can inlet/


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    The silicon is all 3.5inch and fits well and just have to shape the body to fit the leg of the box on

    best to get the box and modify to suit your needs as it’s much more complicated for your setup

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    Looks like someone has finally done an aftermarket air box.

    shame there is not a lot of detail thought. More on the 3 inch snorkel to go with it.

    DISCOVERY 2 STAINLESS STEEL 3" RAISED AIR INTAKE WITH AIRBOX | Dirt Monkey Offroad

    maybe some of the UK Bretheran could investigate and get back to the forum.

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    Ha Just beat me to it re a mandrel bend single piece/

    Quote Originally Posted by 4runnernomore View Post
    Looks like someone has finally done an aftermarket air box.

    shame there is not a lot of detail thought. More on the 3 inch snorkel to go with it.

    DISCOVERY 2 STAINLESS STEEL 3" RAISED AIR INTAKE WITH AIRBOX | Dirt Monkey Offroad

    maybe some of the UK Bretheran could investigate and get back to the forum.


    Well just finished off the Alternator and I was explaining to my BIL what I am intending to do with the just ordered GU AIRBOX which should arrive this week.

    Got home and as per the request from the Mandrel bending firm, as to what I need in terms of the bends of the 4" pipe. Not having the drawing tools, so I got out the cheap snorkel and took pics with the measurements

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    The airbox as we see will sit a little higher on a levelled out piece of sheet metal to 'flatten' the rise towards the rear - this may enable me to have an almost straight through turbo to intercooler piping rather than the down and up that all discovery's have, as the Darkside Manifold and turbo has the outlet in a different position to standard.

    Not sure with the Dirtmonkey one whether 3" is actually large enough for a snorkel or at least my requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4runnernomore View Post
    Looks like someone has finally done an aftermarket air box.

    shame there is not a lot of detail thought. More on the 3 inch snorkel to go with it.

    DISCOVERY 2 STAINLESS STEEL 3" RAISED AIR INTAKE WITH AIRBOX | Dirt Monkey Offroad

    maybe some of the UK Bretheran could investigate and get back to the forum.
    Bloody conical filter design though!

    Essentially useless as a filter, will just dust the motor.

    The GU one RRT is looking to use will at least filter correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Bloody conical filter design though!

    Essentially useless as a filter, will just dust the motor.

    The GU one RRT is looking to use will at least filter correctly.
    Tombie. What do you mean by conical filter?

    Without seeing inside the air filter box how do you know that it would dust the motor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2dave View Post
    Tombie. What do you mean by conical filter?

    Without seeing inside the air filter box how do you know that it would dust the motor?
    The webpage says:

    Genuine RAM-AIR 3" cone filter
    I'm not convinced by them either.

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    Must say have never really understood why they use the RAM style filters, especially on 4WD's, the reducing diameter is also reducing the corresponding area of filtering of the incoming air.

    Suppose it could also be argued that the flat rectangle of the D2 filters offers more surface area but of course the sealing of the box is more problematic so any benefit is compromised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RRT View Post
    Must say have never really understood why they use the RAM style filters, especially on 4WD's, the reducing diameter is also reducing the corresponding area of filtering of the incoming air.

    Suppose it could also be argued that the flat rectangle of the D2 filters offers more surface area but of course the sealing of the box is more problematic so any benefit is compromised.
    This was one a fabricated for my Supercharged D1

    Uses a late model GT element after testing flow rates.

    Good for 300kw at the tyres




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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    This was one a fabricated for my Supercharged D1

    Uses a late model GT element after testing flow rates.

    Good for 300kw at the tyres


    HOON!!!! That is gorgeous Tombie, really really impressive, maybe should have kept my D1 V8, of course, the fuel consumption may be a bit higher again, but Whoa..





    So got the GU Air Cleaner today and am exited somewhat.

    The air filter is 22cm around and 11.5 cm depth, so the square is effectively a 22 * 11.5 * 2 (thickness)cm versus the Mahn filter at 21 * 8 * 5cm . The Mahle Filter has a hell of a lot more pleats I would add but this one is a reusable washable cotton filter, will investigate the throwaway ones as to their construction.

    So in comparison, it was evident how short the GU box is in comparison between the two side by side, but the actual size (when comparing a circle to a rectangle of course) are pretty equal and as noted the air cleaning areas are comparable as well.


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    The section to mount the box will be a shape such as this one below to allow for the shape of the front section of the engine bay with tech screws to mount the plate to the floor. The height will be as high as possible to hopefully allow me to direct line the intercooler to turbo hosing .

    There are a multitude of holes on the base of the air cleaner to mount the box to the plate.

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    Just looked up the throwaway filters and there are certainly more pleats than the reusable type as expected, and, they are available off the shelf at the three auto supplies that I looked up.

    reusable

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    Throwaway


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