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    Transmission ECU swap

    I have a 2003 Td5 Discovery with REMAP by Td5 Inside.
    I decided to swap the Transmission ECU by one from V8 RR P38.
    After the process the engine starts but the Transmission doesn't works properly. It sticks on emergency mode and only uses the 3rd gear.
    Is there any suggestions?
    Is it possible that resetting the adaptive values it works again?
    Thank you in advance for your kind attention

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    Do you have any Diag gear you can interrogate the EAT with?

    It's possible it is faulty, is also possible you didn't manage to get the connector in correctly.

    Lastly, the swap could have coincided with your battery being on the way out, this will cause the same issue.

    Test those things and see what you get.

    Cheers
    James

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    The answer is in your post...

    RR P38 trans controller.

    These are completely different part numbers to D2 V8 trans controllers that are being used to replace TD5 ones here and therefore presumably have been programmed by Bosch
    and ZF to suit RR P38 only.

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    Can you tell me the LR part no. of the trans controller you removed from your D2?

    I would be interested to know if yours is using the same as Australian TD5 EU3 engines.

    Should be a IGG 000 070 in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brenovalle View Post
    I have a 2003 Td5 Discovery with REMAP by Td5 Inside.
    I decided to swap the Transmission ECU by one from V8 RR P38.
    After the process the engine starts but the Transmission doesn't works properly. It sticks on emergency mode and only uses the 3rd gear.
    Is there any suggestions?
    Is it possible that resetting the adaptive values it works again?
    Thank you in advance for your kind attention
    D2 TD5 tcm and D2 tcm are not interchangeable, at least 1 pair of pins for data are numbered differently.
    Regards
    Daz


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    Quote Originally Posted by DazzaTD5 View Post
    D2 TD5 tcm and D2 tcm are not interchangeable, at least 1 pair of pins for data are numbered differently.
    Made me look ya dirty chook

    Which pair ? Can't find em

    the tcu CAN bus pair go to different numbering on the ecu end of the loom depending on V8 or Td5 engine, can't spot any difference on tcu pin out for V8 or Td5

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    I *think* that was a misstype.

    I *think* he meant the p38 one.

    The electrical library for both of the D2 ones shows them as the same.

    In fact one reputable wrecker thought they were the same unit and was selling them as interchangeable and identical.

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    Well shack out of amateur curiosity what did you do to arthur's beasty to stop the kickdown shenanigans?

    Not the nitty gritty details just a laymans explanation, plus now you worked it out you can add that into your tunes for the rest of us that want to use V8 tcu in our td5s.

    I got a tl866ii programmer and can read the 29c1024 in my MSB 101 192 but can't copy it to a blank 28f102

    another forum member had no luck either, I do have some blank 27c1024 on the way but they are only one time programmable and I was trying to avoid that because I am sure I will muck up a lot learning/burning them.

    The 29c1024 is actually meant to be a multi x reprogrammable version of the 27c1024 but I aint going to screw the file on it by experimenting and my current programmer hasn't got it on its compatible list anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnp38 View Post
    Well shack out of amateur curiosity what did you do to arthur's beasty to stop the kickdown shenanigans?

    Not the nitty gritty details just a laymans explanation, plus now you worked it out you can add that into your tunes for the rest of us that want to use V8 tcu in our td5s.

    I got a tl866ii programmer and can read the 29c1024 in my MSB 101 192 but can't copy it to a blank 28f102

    another forum member had no luck either, I do have some blank 27c1024 on the way but they are only one time programmable and I was trying to avoid that because I am sure I will muck up a lot learning/burning them.

    The 29c1024 is actually meant to be a multi x reprogrammable version of the 27c1024 but I aint going to screw the file on it by experimenting and my current programmer hasn't got it on its compatible list anyway.
    Hi John,

    It's taken a long time to get it nailed- along with other bits and pieces, (100s of hours TBH) and I think the results are great, so no... I don't really wanna give it away!

    It should be do able on other units as well hopefully.

    What's the fault you are getting trying to write to the reprogrammable chip?

    Cheers
    James

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    Quote Originally Posted by shack View Post
    Hi John,

    It's taken a long time to get it nailed- along with other bits and pieces, (100s of hours TBH) and I think the results are great, so no... I don't really wanna give it away!

    It should be do able on other units as well hopefully.

    What's the fault you are getting trying to write to the reprogrammable chip?

    Cheers
    James
    That's why I asked only for laymans reply. Not nitty gritty of how to do it coz I don't want you giving it away either !

    Kinda like ' I made an adjustment to the signalling from ecu to tcu which can be done without changing your current fuel tunes ' or sumfing simple like that.

    There is no fault it doesn't support writing to either the 29c1024 or the 28f102 (I was unaware and price sensitive when I purchased) which would be cheap as I could keep rewriting my tune adjustments into the same chip till i got them right (I don't know how to tune mind you, let's not let that get in the way for now)

    I should have purchased the T56 programmer

    Mine does do the 27c1024 single shots, so have got 3 on the way.

    My aim is not to alter my fuel tunes just to properly turn off egr or load my existing fuel maps into files with no egr from factory and get enough of an understanding of 10p tables to run a mafless tune if the maf is truly only for egr and not relied on for auto box changing as well.

    What hex reader are you using to open tune files?

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