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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Onebob - FYI and consideration

    - Diesel burns significantly hotter than petrolFan keeps eating radiators
    - The radiator is a different thickness/profile on the V8 Ford
    - Coolant flow rates are different

    Just highlighting its not as simple as “it works on a bigger one”
    Yup! understood Fan keeps eating radiators

    However I do want to give it go…… BUT only with a proven engineered fan and shroud combination as is factory fitted to a local production vehicle. The mod is fully reversible and I have no expectations either way, I’m only wanting to contribute some useful information based on my real world experience of what for more than a decade has been a contentious subject.
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    I tried those Falcon fans on the Oka with a Cummins 6BT and they worked ok up to about 25C ambient and then it all went west in a hurry. That was on the road, off road they just didn't cope at all.
    The Falcon shroud like in a RRC needed minimal mods to fit the LT Oka and seemed to be a perfect fit to try.
    I used a Davies Craig adjustable fan controller and the Falcon fans through relays and power sourced direct from the battery. Off road and slow going the fans ran continuously and engine temps were at the higher end of the standard range and they often ran for ages after engine shutdown which would result in seriously depleted batteries.
    Using the aircon in over 25C created instant overheating so went back to the standard engine mounted fan which in an LT Oka is about 400mm behind the radiator at the end of a tunnel under the dash so no chance of it hitting anything.
    At highway speeds the fan doesn't operate noticeably but slow down for a town or a long climb and it kicks in with a vengeance and its noise drown everything else out!

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    Thanks oka374, excellent information there and thanks for sharing. It is the very same sort of experience based feedback that I will be giving “warts n all” as they say. The fan I have is the 17.5 inch single (reputed 3700cfm) which was an upgrade on the earlier twin fans that are also used for these sort of retrofits. I was at the wrecker to get an early ZF autotrans sump pan with dipstick tube off a Range Rover and a little way down the row was a FG wagon that somebody had taken the radiator from and left the fan … hmmm that’d be an interesting side project and I’ll learn something along the way. $20 and it was mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onebob View Post
    Okay - I’ll poke my head above the parapet and risk getting my head blown off Fan keeps eating radiatorsand say that I too are modding a Ford Falcon FG fan to see how it would fit my new radiator. And before the naysayers interject, I’ve gotta say FFS these fans keep a supercharged 5.0L V8 cool so why wouldn’t it work for a 2.5L turbo diesel. I am going to find out ….
    Don't forget most of the naysayers have been there and done that, I fitted twin EL Thermos to my D1 V8 once. I had them fitted for one day and pulled them out, they would run constantly in 30°weather and would struggle to keep the engine cool enough in slow traffic. Just my 2c, some things you just have to experience for yourself lol cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRJim View Post
    Don't forget most of the naysayers have been there and done that, I fitted twin EL Thermos to my D1 V8 once. I had them fitted for one day and pulled them out, they would run constantly in 30°weather and would struggle to keep the engine cool enough in slow traffic. Just my 2c, some things you just have to experience for yourself lol cheers
    Yes I totally agree, and I will experience it - for better or for worse Fan keeps eating radiatorsFan keeps eating radiators
    What will it be?
    When I get the D2 back together in the new year I’ll create a new topic about the fan install and report candidly on it’s efficiency or lack off…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post

    When I stop and then drive in, even with water well over the bonnet this doesn't seem to be a problem.
    Likewaise, I stop and drive in slowly. I've had water so far up the bonnet it came inside the cabin. No problem with the radiator. I did find out that the air box leaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohica View Post
    Likewaise, I stop and drive in slowly. I've had water so far up the bonnet it came inside the cabin. No problem with the radiator. I did find out that the air box leaks.
    I’ve had it happen to me - the fan had a noticeable wobble, enough for it to be a problem when the fan touches water and the blades are pulled towards the radiator. The fix was a new fan assembly.
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    I am thinking that as you have stopped, the engine revs are lowish, the slow entry and slow increase in water level slows the fan down to a halt. There is not enough force from the water on the edges of the blades to pull the blades forward.
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    Fan keeps eating radiators

    Quote Originally Posted by Bohica View Post
    I am thinking that as you have stopped, the engine revs are lowish, the slow entry and slow increase in water level slows the fan down to a halt. There is not enough force from the water on the edges of the blades to pull the blades forward.
    Yes! that would be best practise Fan keeps eating radiators …. It didn’t help that my fan hub could wobble on the shaft - about 20mm measured at the tip of the blades - I was aware of the problem but ignored it Fan keeps eating radiators
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    Quote Originally Posted by onebob View Post
    Okay - I’ll poke my head above the parapet and risk getting my head blown off Fan keeps eating radiatorsand say that I too are modding a Ford Falcon FG fan to see how it would fit my new radiator. And before the naysayers interject, I’ve gotta say FFS these fans keep a supercharged 5.0L V8 cool so why wouldn’t it work for a 2.5L turbo diesel. I am going to find out ….

    Hi onebob

    that shroud modification your doing looks exactly like what my son has done on his BF falcon fan shroud. The BF fan as fitted into the Falcon is 2 speed, I'm not sure if he wants his one wired up that way but we have briefly discussed using a Tridon dual range thermal fan switch like the TFS251 and twin relays.

    I have talked him into fitting a temp gauge as well as the BMW coolant expansion tank with the low water level switch. Seems I do have some influence over him then
    '00 D2 V8 The orange off road truck. 2" lift, made my own rear bumper, still working on the front one
    '03 D2a TD5 The silver on road daily driver

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