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    D1 bar onto a D2

    Morning all, did a search and was surprised that nothing came up, so hoping there’s a bit of knowledge out there on this.
    After 24 years of baking in the West Australian sun, my front bumper has finally met its demise, thanks to a loose shopping trolley, make it crack like an Easter egg straight out of the fridge.
    A club member has given me a D1 ARB airbag bar and believes it should fit, however, the internet seems divided on this (as usual), with people saying flat out ‘no’ and others posting pics of their D2 with a D1 bar, saying essentially, ‘bolts straight on’.
    Has anyone got any experience of this at all?
    Cheers
    Mike
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    '03 V6 Freelander 'Phoebe'
    '04 Td4 Freelander 'Harry'

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    Clicked on this because I have just done it..... only I changed the REAR bar, which is definitely not a bolt straight on job. If nobody else chimes in I can go and take some pics and measurements of the ARB winch bars I have on my D1 and D2 for comparison a little later.
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    I am just going out to the cars to take some pics etc. But there is one thing to consider, and that is airbag compliance. My D1 has a driver's bag, but it was an option in 1994. Bags were mandatory for the D2, as 1999 was the year the Gov made them so on passenger vehicles.

    Just a thought. Might impact on insurance and roadworthiness. My D1 is airbag compatible by 1994 standards.
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    The difference between the two cars is sufficient to make accurate measuring difficult without removing the bars. Not doing that! Also, both my cars have ARB bars, and they are quite different in their mounting, due to the airbag thing.

    However.. D1
    IMG_5379.jpgIMG_5377.jpg
    D2
    IMG_5376.jpgIMG_5367.jpg

    I'm not sure the mountings are different enough to account for that.
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    Having recently put my D2 bar on the son's D1, the chassis rails are the same distance apart, and the front 2 holes are the same. The difference between the chassis is that the front cross member is different, meaning that the D1 bars 3rd hole can't be accessed, and the bracket needs that bit cut off. Also, insurance may be an issue as the crush cans on the D1 bar are usually lighter. That said, my MCC bar that he is using is listed as being for D1 & D2 1989-2004.

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    Thanks JayTee
    Hmm, it is an air bag bar, but if the mounts are different, it’s going to be pain to make it work - regardless of any other implications.
    I might have to see if anyone - for whatever reason - might like to swap, or see if a wrecker might do the same. 🤔
    Bugger.

    Thanks for your assistance though! 👍
    Cheers
    Mike

    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    The difference between the two cars is sufficient to make accurate measuring difficult without removing the bars. Not doing that! Also, both my cars have ARB bars, and they are quite different in their mounting, due to the airbag thing.

    However.. D1
    IMG_5379.jpgIMG_5377.jpg
    D2
    IMG_5376.jpgIMG_5367.jpg

    I'm not sure the mountings are different enough to account for that.
    '00 D2 Td5 'Alice'
    '03 V6 Freelander 'Phoebe'
    '04 Td4 Freelander 'Harry'

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    Ahh, thanks mrs…
    Interesting- I wonder if finding some D2 crush cans would solve the issue?

    Cheers
    Mike

    Quote Originally Posted by mrs View Post
    Having recently put my D2 bar on the son's D1, the chassis rails are the same distance apart, and the front 2 holes are the same. The difference between the chassis is that the front cross member is different, meaning that the D1 bars 3rd hole can't be accessed, and the bracket needs that bit cut off. Also, insurance may be an issue as the crush cans on the D1 bar are usually lighter. That said, my MCC bar that he is using is listed as being for D1 & D2 1989-2004.
    '00 D2 Td5 'Alice'
    '03 V6 Freelander 'Phoebe'
    '04 Td4 Freelander 'Harry'

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 rocks View Post
    Ahh, thanks mrs…
    Interesting- I wonder if finding some D2 crush cans would solve the issue?

    Cheers
    Mike
    As long as the end that monts on the bar end is the same

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