Advice? TD5 Manual towing OB Jayco Swan

mousie · 21st April 2008, 02:37 PM

Hello

Its me again, the one trying to upgrade my 1991 D1 to a D2. I have been reading the threads auto vs manual and agree for towing around Aust the auto would be rather nice. But, I've now started looking at the few manuals around and know the difference for normal driving (although never driven a manual diesel) ie matching gears to get the best out of the girl. But when it comes to towing a loaded outback swan camper coming in at 1400-1600Kgs. It would be a different story. Twice in the D1 3.5 v8, I've been embarrasingly stuck on the 'normal' roadways with the disco (10.5R tyres does not help) and swan when a moderately challenging hill was in front. Nothing to worry a Datsun sunny hence the stall. low range initially to build up revs and then an up change to high range.

So, with the td5, I suspect that this is also a real possibility on the rare occassion? This was the area of interest I just wanted the advice in as for on the highway with 5 gears locked, thinks have gotta be good. Also, should I see much improvement on highway between manual and auto fuel consumption. If the auto locks 3 and 4 in I suspect not, but then again 4 and 5 are pretty tall.

Any advice in this area will also be appreciated. Thanks Guys

Geoff

**Pedro_The_Swift** · 21st April 2008, 02:44 PM

If you go with an Auto, I'd change the fluid to synthetic and look at getting another cooler.

The Td5 should handle it well.

**Blknight.aus** · 21st April 2008, 03:01 PM

call me pedantic but If I can haul 3+ tons around and do the ranges in vic with a manual pushed by the TD5 (pre tombraider insanity chipping) it cant be that hard and you dont have to worry about overheating the manual.

mousie · 21st April 2008, 04:34 PM

Thankyou for this info, if 3k on hills is okay then the camper better hang on, Geoff

**BradM** · 21st April 2008, 06:01 PM

But when it comes to towing a loaded outback swan camper coming in at 1400-1600Kgs. It would be a different story.

Is that all you are going to tow? Too easy for the TD5 auto. It will do it on it's head without chipping.

Try 2,500 kg loaded. No probs.

BradM

**LandyAndy** · 21st April 2008, 07:39 PM

DEFINATELEY GO THE AUTO!!!
I have a D2 TD5 manual.They are too overgeared for easy takeoff with a heavy trailer,yes I tow heavy loads!!!!
I do have taller tyres that make it worse!!!(makes the gearing taller)
The turbo doesnt spool up fast enough so the manual struggles.
Once underway an bloody good towing motor,pulls just as hard with a load as it does empty,VERY IMPRESSIVE for a 2.5lt motor!!!
Andrew

**sfako** · 22nd April 2008, 07:27 AM

You will have no probs with an auto we tow 2.6T and have pulled from Townsville to currently Esperance with an auto 2.5 turbo.
Start out with the load in third and get up to 80k then drop into D and the converter locks in so crusing at 90k at 2300rpm just nice. When you hit hills etc just drop back to 3 and there is not a prob at 3000rpm
Currently for 6900ks we have averaged 17.1 ltrs per 100

seeya Steve

mousie · 22nd April 2008, 07:12 PM

Thanks heaps folks and I know I new in posting messages to the fourm but the assistance is brilliant. I've been looking for a while and will just have to bite the bullet. This time I had my eye on the TD5 Maunal currently on e-bay at Port Macquarie with 66K's hence the question. Only one problem when I spoke over the phone for more information as looks a hoot. The seller wants cash, yep actual cash! Somehow I don't like the idea of approx 20plus cash on handover. And kep, it is there COD only!

When I do find the machine which I can tell you will be a TD5, Iwill be all over it. Maybe I should start a threat on my inspection travels but I suspect someone will call me anal after a while.
Oh and thanks for the fuel usage, this will give me good indications for the around the Aust travel. Broke the journey up into three parts, the first two completed with a third with grown kids (chevy chase sort of thing) when the new second hand unit arrives in the rover family

Geoff

**LandyAndy** · 22nd April 2008, 08:08 PM

Hi Geoff
Best you steer away from COD ebay deals,you dont want to front for your new ride only to be robbed of your hard earnt $$$$.May be legit but a big risk if its not!!!
Andrew

**BradM** · 23rd April 2008, 08:09 AM

Just for info, the ECU Remap (chipping) along with the EGR removal plus the vortex muffler averages me 15 litres a 100 klms towing my 2.5 t loaded van plus gives the TD5 a lot more power to use.

I use the same technique as sfako for the auto when towing. Next outing I am going to try a tip from Slunnie and tow in sports mode.

BradM

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