According to Tyreplier Engineering it is possible. I asked this question of them when I picked up my camper trailer. The response was a guarded "yes, if you know what you are doing".
Do the Defender alloy rims have the same step in them?
Has anyone successfully removed a tyre off a Series2 Disco mag wheel without the use of a tyre machine. These wheels have an offset safety seal. Due to this the bead has to be broken adjacent to the valve stem first.
Do tyre pliers work on these rims?
Fortunately I have never had to do this without a machine, but breaking the bead on these is a real pain.
Erich
According to Tyreplier Engineering it is possible. I asked this question of them when I picked up my camper trailer. The response was a guarded "yes, if you know what you are doing".
Do the Defender alloy rims have the same step in them?
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Yes, using the D2 Superfoot attachment. Buggerlugs needed a tyre repair on Madigans this year. It was much faster the 2nd time a few minutes later to insert a tube.
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I've done it 3 different ways...
R & R Bead breaker
Hi_Lift off the tow hitch
Driving Over the tyre
Partly it depends on how long the tyre has been on the rim, and how much soap was used during its fitment...
Also helps that I have a pile of weight to put into it!
In theory, the AH2 bead lock used on the P38A and D2 (and later LRs) requires a machine to roll the bead off without damage.
Ron B.
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I spoke to Steve at Eastern Wheel Works about this.
He's machined the bead down for a few offroad travellers... He's licensed to modify wheels and does it enough to make removing the tyre easier.
I have successfully broken the bead on a D2 Alloy rim using the Tyre Jaws (see attached pic) but haven't been successful in levering the tyre off the rim without damaging the rim slightly.
Roger
Hi, these methods work well on steel wheels and the hi-lift method is how I have always repaired tyres on earlier Defenders. The S2 mags seem to be a different kettle of fish. I am not saying the beed won't break using those methods. Because of the tapered lip on the safety seal they are way more difficult, requiring an effort on a tyre machine. The bead will not just pop like on standard steel rims but has to be worked on almost the full circumference.
I am just trying to gauge what additional tyre changing gear I should be looking at buying or making.
Thanks, Erich
Here's another successful (home made) beadbreaker that I've seen being used effectively on a tyre that had been on an ols Series rim for more than 30 years. Although I haven't seen it used on a D2 rim, I believe that it would be quite successful.
Even though it is a bit bulky to carry when dismantled, it requires very little effort to use and I'm sure would be most welcome on a remote area group trip.
It still doesn't solve the problem of levering the tyre ver the rim without damaging the rim though. If anyone has an easy, non damaging way of doing this then I'd be very interested to hear about it.
Roger
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