Thread: Gah! It's the Disco Sags!! (from the SLS bags!)

Originally Posted by John W

The first to go with me was a compressor at only 6 years, but I had done a fair amount of caravan work. Then one bag went and then later another. Trouble with the last one is that I was in the middle of nowhere up Cape York, and judging by things I need another new compressor. If it was just the bags then I agree no major concern but price of 2 new compressors and you get a lot of new coils!

Thanks John,
You have convinced me that if/when my compressor packs up, I will be replacing the air bags at the same time.
It is likely your compressor packed up prematurely as it had been working too hard, due to an undiagnosed leak in one of your bags.
I like the SLS too much to replace it with coil springs.
Cheers,
Alan

Uh oh..

Looks like I might have fried my compressor. ($$ ouch). Been googling and eBaying.. these look hard to come by. Any suggestions?

Wil

Originally Posted by For The Horde

Uh oh..

Looks like I might have fried my compressor. ($$ ouch). Been googling and eBaying.. these look hard to come by. Any suggestions?

Wil

Famous Four in the UK $553 AUD landed at my door. Exchange rate hasnt varied much in the last few months, so should still be close to the mark.

Cheers

Originally Posted by For The Horde

Great!!

I'd been trying to track this one down for a week or so.. Ever since my last service (including rear brakes - related??) my passenger rear SLS airback has been RANDOMLY deflating. It would drop down over time when parked, but fill again when driving and be at drive height. It wouldn't always do it (especially not when i wanted it to.. ) just randomly. tried parking flat, different direction slopes etc etc. Couldn't seem to trigger it.

It dropped me on the way home tonight, and I find it's a leaky bag (the ol' soapy liquid in a spray bottle trick eh?).

*insert long drawn out sigh*

That and my recent visitation from the 3 Amigos... did I buy the right car? Damn! I love this thing tho!!

Money is really tight right now.. I have a warranty but suspension is not listed, and therefore not covered. soooo...

1. AIRBAG MAN | Australia's No. 1 & leading Air Suspension :: Airbags :: Air Springs Specialists ? any thoughts? found it on a post here.
2. SLS riser kits.. any thoughts? (while I'm at it - cos i do like the adjustable height thing)
3. Springs? (cost/effectiveness comparison to SLS bags?)

Thinking of trecking down to Ricks 4x4 or up to that one a redcliff. About time i got "The Canyonero" to a Landy lover methnks.



Cheers

Wil

I'm with Pedro on SLS suspension.
I wouldnt change it to coils.
On air bags: I have no confidence in the US bags having had 4 out of 4 leak straight out of the box.
The Airbag Man bags are Dunlops from the UK and retail here for double the price than can be bought landed at your door ex UK in AUD. As someone here mentioned they haggled and got a better deal. I was unable to get better than $320 each + freight, so I decided that Paddoks in the UK could have my business for a pair at my door for $322 AUD. The Dunlop bag IMO, are a superior item in ride and assembly, also the push in fittings are a much better idea than the original screw in fitting. The US bags have the screw in fittings also.
If you want to lift the car and money is tight you can always install the blocks later on.

A compressor that hasnt been drowned, had the filter cleaned at proper intervals and not been subected to overheating due not replacing a leaking bag shouldnt present any issues.

Unless you do not trust O/seas suppliers, Shopping around will prove parts are not that dear and the best bit about SLS is that each bag only take about 15 mins each to change out and you can do it yourself with the most basic tool kit.

As for the amigos, Pedro here, devotes his time to the Good Oil, which will provide you with the temporary and permanent fixes to this and almost anything for your D2. Check out members with diagnostic capabilities here also, I'm sure someone would be fairly close to get your fault codes and clear them.
But for starters: Clean your earth points. If the amigos are permanently on then it is most likely a wheel sensor, if they go away with ignition reset then it is associated with the shuttle valve. Replacing the fluid will often fix the issue.


Cheers

Originally Posted by For The Horde

Uh oh..

Looks like I might have fried my compressor. ($$ ouch). Been googling and eBaying.. these look hard to come by. Any suggestions?

Wil

reasonably priced here.
LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 2 AIR SUSPENSION COMPRESSOR (OE) - eBay, Land Rover, Car Parts, Vehicle Parts Accessories. (end time 24-Mar-10 04:18:18 AEDST)

let me know when you source a compressor . i am interested in your old one, see if i can make some sense out of why these things do play up when they do.

also need to check your bags, cos really the compressor shouldnt fail if the airbags are ok.

i am now of the opinion that that the airbags should have a soapy spray over as a matter of course maybe at every oil service. as a preventative measure to pick them up when they start leaking and prevent the compressor overworking.

Thanks everyone!

The good new.. my compressor is working now. (don't want to think about WHY it wasn't) and fingers crossed it continues to.

The expensive news: I've decided to stick with the SLS despite the immediate expense! Strangy, i wish I'd read your post about an hour ago.. just ordered 2 bags from airbagman @ $295 each with free courier delivery (they'd want to be delivering it free with THAT much price difference!).

So I can comfort myself that, despite the painful expense, I will have new bags today/tomorrow that are of a quality that may give me up to 10 years life the way I drive!

Decided I couldn't risk burning out the compressor, and can't do without the wheels due to kids / school running around etc etc.

Found this great post and now have the confidence to put these suckers in myself. Land Rover Zone - View Single Post - Disco II Air suspension – the definitive guide

I found the complete article here to be really useful too: Disco II Air Suspension - the definitive guide

Gonna go buy a trolley jack now.. I can see I'll need it again.

Cheers

Wil

Before you buy a trolley jack (assuming you dont really want one)
If you have jack stands. Set off road height, put the stands under the chassis, then set normal road height.
The truck will lower onto the stands and you can remove the fittings and slip out the bags. Put the new ones in and after they have inflated, set off road height again, check for leaks,remove the stands and away you go.

Cheers

Originally Posted by For The Horde

Thanks everyone!

The good new.. my compressor is working now. (don't want to think about WHY it wasn't) and fingers crossed it continues to.

The expensive news: I've decided to stick with the SLS despite the immediate expense! Strangy, i wish I'd read your post about an hour ago.. just ordered 2 bags from airbagman @ $295 each with free courier delivery (they'd want to be delivering it free with THAT much price difference!).

So I can comfort myself that, despite the painful expense, I will have new bags today/tomorrow that are of a quality that may give me up to 10 years life the way I drive!

Decided I couldn't risk burning out the compressor, and can't do without the wheels due to kids / school running around etc etc.

Found this great post and now have the confidence to put these suckers in myself. Land Rover Zone - View Single Post - Disco II Air suspension – the definitive guide

I found the complete article here to be really useful too: Disco II Air Suspension - the definitive guide

Gonna go buy a trolley jack now.. I can see I'll need it again.

Cheers

Wil

Goodluck with it all, make sure you get the stands! jacks arnt reliable enough to hold the car for extended period of times while you do the work.

Shamo