Thread: IID Tool vs Faultmate MSV-2 for D4

Originally Posted by phl

I gather IID Tool will be releasing their D4 module in March, whereas the Faultmate MSV-2 is already fully functional for the D4.

Will the two provide the same function, or is IID Tool more like Faultmate FCR, and not allow you to write changes to the CCF?

Take a look at the IID Tool webpage and select Disco 4 and the year. This will give you a full listing of features. Every single "feature" is currently marked as "in progress".

IIDTool for Land Rover - GAP Diagnostic

If you assume the "in progress" translates to delivered features there will clearly be configuration functionality.

You'd really need to compare with the Faultmate MSV D4 module to see how the two stack up: DISCOVERY 4 (LR4) (SM134)

cheers
Paul

I wonder if the IID tool's use of instruments and the steering wheel interface might compromise its ability to diagnose faults with those systems, compared with using a completely stand-alone device. A small display screen and a couple of buttons on the device would give that independance.

Gap's IID Tool for the D4 is in beta, and they are supposedly readying release of everything in March this year (according to someone who asked), hence my question.

On one hand, the cheaper pricing and fewer components (as it's using the instrument panel) is appealing, but if there are limitations to the system, then it's not worth the savings.

You are a bit stuffed if your cruise control buttons play up as on the D3.

Ivan

Hi Guys,

Originally Posted by Ivan

You are a bit stuffed if your cruise control buttons play up as on the D3.

Ivan

Actually, you are not 'stuffed' . There are alternative controls that are not quite as convenient to use (TS lever = + and -, Foglight switch = enter).
You would be a bit 'stuffed' if your display was...

But we are working on a new interface too. Hopefully we can make it available by summer. You'll need a phone or a tablet...

The IIDTool is not impaired in diagnostics of the cluster or the CC by utilizing these 2 items.

As far as functionality goes, the IIDTool is on a similar level to the MSV (or professional systems such as Autologic or LR OEM IDS/SDD). The FCR is a fault code reader/clearer - nothing else. We have heard reports that we have functions available that the MSV does not (EGR on the TDV6) - and we do not do some things that the MSV does (the IIDTool will not allow the flashing of new ECUs, for instance).

I posted general background info on diagnostic systems a couple of days ago - might be worth reading as a primer.
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - please advise on best fault code readers for LR3

Here is a vid showing the menu on a D4.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OIqMV5Zqc0&feature=player_embedded"]IIDTool First Video On A Discovery 4 / LR4 - YouTube[/ame]

We can also be reached directly at support@ our website (gap-diagnostic.com) for additional questions.

Steve

Steve,

Good to see you here. When will the D4 version of IID Tool be released? Is March firm? And as far as different interface, I assume both iOS and Android will be supported, and I also assume a different dongle will be required as I guess BT would be the comms method.

Hi phl,
Relatively, yes eventually, and yes but we will work something out for present IIDTool owners.

Relatively: we can't say exactly how long it will take to get the units to retailers, but the time frame for our delivery is roughly such.

Yes eventually: we are all Apple users but Android is easier and less expensive to develop for. So we will likely have Android first...

Yes, the present units are not Bluetooth capable - but we will work something out so that nobody is left out in the cold if they purchase now.

Cheers,
Steve

the Faultmate MSV-2 is already fully functional for the D4.

Although The MSV-2 does already have significant coverage of the D4, including full CCF edit (ie thousands of settings and not just odd items) and much more besides, such that it might be considered fully functional.

It is however not yet complete for the D4 by MSV-2 standards by a long way.

While we have provided lower cost and lower capability equipment like the FCR, our MSV-2 equipment is and has always been our flagship, and as such is an an utter and no compromise system.
Hence it introducing full CCF edit, full flashing and endless other extensive capability, features and functionallity that has always set it way ahead of any other system and be the most desirable equipment on the market.

A few months ago we freely released a half way stage software upgrade that added literally thousands of new inputs and outputs to the many vehicle systems of the D3. Just before Christmas, we released the remainder that also ran into significant numbers to finally complete our mission to produce a system with coverage for the D3 and ALL it's on board systems that left absolutely nothing that is possible to do uncovered.

As of that moment, if the MSV-2 does not provide some value, parameter, feature or function, it is only because it simply cannot be done.

Of course it has taken us a simply huge amount of work, time and effort to develop all this, but we don't take shortcuts, or cherry pick capability.

But there was good reason for us to want to so utterly complete D3 coverage to the degree we have, because having reached this stage, the good news is that almost all of the hard work we have put in and the masses of code we have created can be quickly and instantly be re used as is, in adding the same "no stone" unturned type coverage level to the D4.