Thread: P38 diagnostic tool

My nanocom has been quite good. It does have a simple os though thats limited by the hardware, so with software upgrades and some other stuff you need to follow bbs instructions to the tee.


From reading I think the nanocom is more powerfull than the hawkeye, though I think the hawkeye has just released an update.


Also instrument mode on the nanocom is the most usefull thing ever, especially in hot weather.

You can regard my input as being biased if you wish Sidewinder76, as i am the owner of BBS and the supplier of the Nanocom Evolution, but i truly and honestly believe that currently nothing comes anywhere near providing the same capability and functionality for the P38 that the Nanocom Evolution provides for the cost.

Even if vehicle system access were that same, which it is not, as the EVO has it all, the additional instrument mode and ability to save stuff to a SD Card that can then be accessed via a PC etc makes choosing the Evo over anything else a real no brainer.

I have a Hawkeye.
Cant say that I have really needed the thing since I bought it.
I do carry it in the back with me if I leave the road or the city.
One thing that annoys me a tad is the need for extra leads to access the different ECUs obviously they cost extra.
Its functional and seems to do all that it needs to do with a minimum of fuss.
The later model unit sounds like it is a bit more useful.

Does the Nano only use one lead to operate or does it need extras?
Nano cost?

Hiya RR P38

One thing that annoys me a tad is the need for extra leads to access the different ECUs obviously they cost extra.

Indeed this is annoying in a number of respects.
First is that it seems that the need and cost for these additional leads is not made very apparent.

Second is the cost and so many compare prices without appreciating that they need to buy an additional 3 leads for proper cost comparison of a Hawkeye V Nanocom. You only need an additional 2 leads for using the unit, but then you have to buy another lead and a Power supply to update it.

Third is the awkwardness that having to constantly swap the leads out, never mind remembering that you have to do that but also which lead is required for which system.

fourthly is the extra bulk of carying these leads in the vehicle at all times.

Its functional and seems to do all that it needs to do

BBS have never limited what access our equipment provides to the basics or just fundamental needs, or even what a dealer can do. Instead we provide the maximum possible diagnostic capability that the vehicle systems themselves provide, which most often far exceeds any other equipment. On top of this, as mentioned we also provide the ability to save / log the information our system accesses.

It seems that we are pretty unique in actually providing a full and proper list of all the settings, values and functionlity our equipment provides on line that can be accessed prior to purchase, unfortunately that means folks can only see what they are missing after they purchase something else.

Does the Nano only use one lead to operate or does it need extras?

Yes The Nanocom Evolution was specifically designed as a dedicated diagnostic system for Land Rover Vehicles including the P38 and therefore has all the multi channel communications built in. so it just requires the one lead for the P38.

We also include the lead required to connect it to a PC and update it.

Nano cost?

Nanocom Kits for Discovery 2's and defenders cost AUD $402.75, but kits for P38's cost AUD $470.10 because it covers twice as many Vehicle ECU's as Discovery 2's have.

However as a supporter of this board we do offer a 10% discount to established members as detailed here.

http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/do...ions/aulro.pdf

Our kits however, while providing licencing for the rest of the systems in the chosen model, do only include a licence one engine management type.

For example if you purchased a Nanocom Kit for a Gems P38 Range Rover, you could access everything on any other Gems P38, and everything except the EMS on a Motronic P38. However adding additional engine managements is not expensive at AUD $66.00 each


I hope this provides all the info anyone might need but would happily answer any other questions.

Hello Colin,

I have to ask, why is it that the Faultmate MSV2 costs so much more if the nanocom has virtually the same capabilities?

I've got a single VIN licensed MSV-2 extreme myself and am quite satisfied in its ability - although I've never needed to use it in anger in the 4 years I've owned it (have only used it to adjust EAS heights), I have used it to glance at engine stats/fueling conditions, etc, however, for the sake of looking and seeing how everything works.

Cheers
Keithy

Hiya Keithy.

While the Nanocom Evolution has virtually the same vehiclular access capabilities as an MSV-2, there are still significant differences in the ease of use and access to these. And although via it's SD card you can save and log data with a Nanocom, which provides capability above others, the MSV-2 provides this more directly and with more capable, deeper and more user friendly options like AVI capture, Raw CSV files, and saving settings as a HTML file that can be re imported and saved back to an ECU.

The MSV-2 is and will always be our flagship system for those looking for the very ultimate diagnostic system and not on a budget requiring cost comparison.

Originally Posted by BBS Guy

However as a supporter of this board we do offer a 10% discount to established members as detailed here. http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/do...ions/aulro.pdf

If only I had read this a few hours ago before ordering a Nanocom!

So I had a quick play with the Nanocom evolution last night and it's rather a good piece of kit. The only problem I had is that in certain areas such as the hevac and lights for example it displayed on the screen that it could not establish a link to the ecu. Maybe I'll have to have a further play with it.