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  1. 1st November 2012, 11:29 AM #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    You have been reading Dave's tirade of lies about the G-wagons???
    Yes Ben I have. and I suspected the accuracy of those claims when Dave made them a year or so ago.

    I don't really understand the fitment of drum brakes though, unless it is to insure at least some degree of braking performance when reversing back down steep gradients in the event of engine failure causing loss of vacuum assist?
    Does the 4x4 rear suspension feature multiple links, or travel limiting, antisquat inducing radius arms like the older G wagons?
    You don't happen to have a photo depicting the 6x6 thru drive for the rearmost axle?
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    Tirade of lies? You mean the ones that are turning out to be surprisingly accurate?.

    The drum brakes are on the back to enable a full size park brake that can hold the vehicle on a maximum rated slope at rated gvm.
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    Just FYI the leaf spings was not a rumour started here.

    As with all international W461 G-Wagons, the front suspension is made up of MacPherson struts and coil springs, the rear end has leaf springs, while the steering is a recirculating ball design.
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    edit - this aticle is dated 07/09/2012

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    The article is wrong.
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    a few more pics







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  6. 1st November 2012, 06:11 PM #136
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    Thanks for the pics Don. Thru drive appears to be via Morse chain to pinion on leading diff.
    Blanking plate on left side axle tube looks like where the axle difflock actuator would fit. Have they deleted the difflock for the leading axle?
    No rear suspension load sharing arrangement that I can detect. Radius arms and heavy swaybars would severely restrict unladen interaxle articulation too I would suspect. Better than a Perentie 6x6, but don't think cross country performance was high up on list of priorities.
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    Drum brakes for the park brake on slope at gvm.
    Coils not leaf, Perentie 6x6 had rear leafs.
    No load sharing on the rear axle group.

    Dave might know given he has been trained. Are the diff locks subject to computer wizardry to overcome Bill's concern of poor selection practice?
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    Sorry to be a technical pain tonight, but does anyone have pics showing the links for the rearmost axle of the 6x6? With radius arms on the leading axle, i'm imagining universal joint angles for the rearmost propshaft would get fairly ugly with little articulation unless something quite tricky was done with the rear links.
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    Hey Wagoo, I found this, not sure if it shows you what you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slug_burner View Post

    Dave might know given he has been trained. Are the diff locks subject to computer wizardry to overcome Bill's concern of poor selection practice?
    nope. but the selection/deselection is sequence locked, IE you cant turn on the front lock untill the center and rear is selected and deselecting center turns off all.

    6x6 CDl selection locks the center diff and the power divider (all crown wheels rotate at the same speed) locking the rear engages both rear diff locks (rear 4 turn at the same speed
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