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    Quote Originally Posted by OffTrack View Post
    No, it's just further evidence that the Defenderati have NFI what the market really wants from a 4x4.

    Who gives a flying fig what the market think they want.

    Defender drivers know what they need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    hang on, he didn't stop before the water crossing to turn off the alternator exciter.
    One of the linked articles says this is only necessary for SALT water wading, so no need if it's fresh water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Who gives a flying fig what the market think they want.

    Defender drivers know what they need.
    Defender owners tend not to buy new Defenders particularly often do they.

    That is a pretty good business model. Building vehicles to suit the demands of those who aren't buying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OffTrack View Post
    Defender owners tend not to buy new Defenders particularly often do they.

    That is a pretty good business model. Building vehicles to suit the demands of those who aren't buying.
    LandRover was never built for the mass city dwelling populace... someone has to serve the 'niche'? Evoque sales will bring in the money, but the defender gives the brand substance - priceless.

    Anyway G-wagon looks like it could do well for the Army but to match the defender it still has alot of years ahead in which to prove itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OffTrack View Post
    Defender owners tend not to buy new Defenders particularly often do they.

    That is a pretty good business model. Building vehicles to suit the demands of those who aren't buying.
    It's because we care about the environment and we are very comfortable with who we are.

    No need to keep consuming when you can maintain and repair, and lets face it, Deefer drivers aren't slaves to the whims and vagaries of fashion, we don't need reassurance from a purchase to validate an image, we are confident in our identity and ability, we have no need to massage a fragile ego with a bright and shiny phallic symbol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    It's because we care about the environment and we are very comfortable with who we are.

    No need to keep consuming when you can maintain and repair, and lets face it, Deefer drivers aren't slaves to the whims and vagaries of fashion, we don't need reassurance from a purchase to validate an image, we are confident in our identity and ability, we have no need to massage a fragile ego with a bright and shiny phallic symbol.
    So you are saying the Australian Military are slaves to the whims and vagaries of fashion, and need bright and shiny phallic symbols to feel complete? That IS brave

    Look don't feel bad. Cars can be kept running for inordinate periods by enthusiasts, so when the last Defender is finally shuffled off to glory in the surrounds of the British Heritage Museum in a couple of years there is no need for those brave Defender owners of which you write to feel sorrowful. Take inspiration from the series owners, and embrace the joys of maintaining a classic. My old man is currently doing up a 1923 Packard, so realistically you've got another 80-90 years use in your current Defender.

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    I'm hoping $200K was retail.....geez.....

    I thought it would have had a more powereful donk....it's no light weight I'm sure.

    Thanks for the link.

    Kev.

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    So, I wonder how well the Defender would perform on the same track with front and rear lockers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manic View Post
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    Anyway G-wagon looks like it could do well for the Army but to match the defender it still has alot of years ahead in which to prove itself.
    The G-wagen has been proven many times by armies around the world. Wikipedia lists 35 countries which use or used the MB/Puch G-Wagen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celtoid View Post
    I'm hoping $200K was retail.....geez.....

    I thought it would have had a more powereful donk....it's no light weight I'm sure.

    Thanks for the link.

    Kev.
    AFAIK $200k is the civvie version which is IFS.
    The military version is not available in AU, but is sold in the EU as the G-Wagen "Professional", starting at E80k.

    Still expensive though.

    However the AU army were paying $100k each for landrovers when the general public were paying $20-40k for an almost identical vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OffTrack View Post
    So you are saying the Australian Military are slaves to the whims and vagaries of fashion, and need bright and shiny phallic symbols to feel complete? That IS brave

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    Looking at the recent purchase history of the ADF a case could be made for those in procurement and the higher echelons

    Of course the G-Wagen has been around as long as the 110, so I doubt you could realistically claim it's a fashion statement either, unless of course you're really into the ruggedly practical (or maybe the blue oyster bar?) look

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