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    Mercedes gurus?

    A mate tried to convince me of the merits of a late 90s Mercedes C250D, particularly the turbo model. He says, they're great, will run fine on bio-diesel, and are very solid an reliable.

    Anybody know much about these?

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    Back in the UK they were the Holy Grail of engines/cars that were suitable for converting to SVO/WVO. They would run on anything, and indestructible.

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    What do they sell for ?
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    Never mind.
    1999 Mercedes-Benz C250D Classic W202 Cars For Sale in QLD - CarPoint Australia

    Did find this
    Mercedes-Benz C-Class W202 1993 - Car Review | Honest John

    which warns:
    Glow plugs of diesels can fail after about 3 years and 50,000 miles. Cost £300 - £400 to replace due to amount of dismantling involved.

    If C250TD is a poor starter, may be due to glow plug problem above. VITAL TO CHECK GLOW PLUGS OF DIESELS. These have a habit of failing, then break when the garage tries to remove them and rectification can cost £4,500.
    Rust can be a big problem on these cars, especially in the area around the rear wheelarches.
    Lower front suspension control arms can rust through. They are made of layers of stamped sheetmetal rather than solid steel. They have a 3 inch large hole on top and the salt and water goes in the hole and soaks down to the lower ball joint area, and rusts from the inside out because they are hollow.
    (hopefully not as big an issue here as no salted roads, but something to be aware of)

    Kick down problems on automatics (which is most C Class) can be caused by a failing mass airflow sensor.
    Reported high incidence of ECU failures on 12 year old C200s everywhere from the UK to Australia. Has led to a worldwide parts shortage. Cost £1,300 each (as much as the value of many of these cars). So a 12 + years old C Class with an ECU problem is effectively scrap.
    Another common fault of C-class and other Mercedes diesels is failure of injector seals, allowing fuel/air mixture to be deposited as carbon on top of the engine. The problem can be identified by the smell of neat fuel (like paraffin) entering the passenger cabin, and a "chuffing" sound from the top of the affected cylinder as gas escapes on the compression stroke. Apparently it is so common it has been given the name "black death" within the Mercedes dealerships. Unless spotted early, and seals reground and replaced, the cost of fixing can be up to £500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    Never mind.
    1999 Mercedes-Benz C250D Classic W202 Cars For Sale in QLD - CarPoint Australia

    Did find this
    Mercedes-Benz C-Class W202 1993 - Car Review | Honest John

    which warns:
    (hopefully not as big an issue here as no salted roads, but something to be aware of)
    geez you do know how to search for things after all...

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    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    apart from rust in the UK/salted road areas of Euro.

    Nice, but pricey.
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    Under $10K for a decent car isn't too bad.
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    Funnily enough, not much more pricey than similar mileage Subarus I've been seeing.

    They look a little bulky to me.

    I really must replace SWMBO's Vitara, and sick of looking at other options...

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    Check the price on your spares for it....

    be alarmed at the number of specialist tools required... (like landrover there are a lot of work arounds but workarounds cost time and increase the potential for failure.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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