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As you said the competition is already too great with Isuzu/Mazda and Ford/VW badge engineering already as well as Ram trucks further cannibalising the market (in Aus anyway). It's still a shame that we wont see a vehicle emerge from Land Rover that is as far ahead of the market as the Defender was in 1988.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
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I read the new Defender look alike Grenadier is now being built in France near the German border. Apparently the billionaire owner who doesn't live in the UK but Monaco but who had expressed his faith in UK based workforce for his new baby, bought a disused ex Merc car factory and decided to abandon all previous plans and build it there instead.
Made better economic sense for his bank account apparently.
AlanH.
That’s because as it evolves it’s becoming increasingly more complex and expensive.
Too complicated by far much the same as most cars these days especially those supposedly for going to remote places. Too expensive as well. I'll stick with the D4 despite some misgivings when I read about what could go wrong. :)
AlanH.
This may explain it. And don't forget a no deal Brexit is on the cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATH
Pat Callinan's 4X4 Adventures | The Essence of 4X4 Adventure - Ineos acquires French production plant to build Grenadier (mr4x4.com.au)
That could cause more than a few problems for many people and industry Bob10. But the EU daren't be seen as letting the UK leave without punishment or easily as it may just encourage others to do the same although as most seem to be nett receivers of taxpayer largesse, I doubt that'll happen. :)
AlanH.
Yeah, it's a can of worms alright. One thing I haven't seen with the Grenadier is the price. Do you have news on that? cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATH
North of 100K I believe Bob10. Although that may include our special taxes like LCT. New Defender much the same, our pricing appears to start where others finish. I'll be keeping the D4 until the Cook says otherwise. :)
AlanH.
Those prices are out of reach of most. I'm guessing that in the future diesel driven vehicles will be phased out in favour of EV's. That might work in Europe, but in our wide brown land .....can't see it really.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATH
I think it will flop, here in Oz, on several counts.
Namely, No bullbar with numerous spotties , a 1.5 metre long light bar and 12T winch attached.
No second 1.5 metre long light bar, fluro handled shovel, orange Max Traxx and a kangaroo jack strapped to a roof rack.
No 6' lift with brightly coloured shocks and Mud Terrain 35" tyres.
No twin spare tyres with, 'Made for Mud' wheel covers, mounted on the rear door.
No RM Williams Longhorn sticker across the windscreen.
Going by the vehicle's photos and what I've noticed in the last decade or so, it just won't be capable enough for traversing our shopping centres, bottlos and school drop off/pick up landscapes, here in Australia.