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What an exciting project. I just watched 'Reveal 5'. They are serious. Looks good, ticks the boxes of what we like about our Defenders, it will work, more than likely be much more reliable. What's not to like? I'm excited and for the first time I am thinking that buying a new 4WD would be the right thing to do. Parts? This is the 21st century and everything is here in 48hrs (give or take). Will the engine bay be tighter than my TD5? Likely not.
I just watched episode 5 also - and the main points for me were:
* BMW 3 ltr engine (diesel & petrol) - yes, we knew that.
* Auto only
* Hi-Low transfer case
* Rear diff lock
* Testing to be done all around the world, but they mention Australia & New Zealand
* They are building 100 vehicles to do a year of testing
So - it's a little way off, but they are at least considering OZ/NZ..
Hopefully the price is okay.
Cheers,
GG.
They did not talk about the axle lockers. They were talking about the transfer case diff lock being manually actuated along with the range selector. The box appears to be a similar design to the LT230.
As far as axle diff locks they previously stated they will be optional front and rear.
Looks like there may be a hydrogen power option in the future as well.
Ineos and Hyundai join forces on hydrogen, Grenadier targeted | Drive
Regards,
Tote
I reckon the concept is far superior to the New Defender.
It probably will not sell as well as the World is a different place now to 20 years ago, with much more bitumen and made roads. Most Defenders will be bought as "Toorak Tractors" for profiling purposes.
IMHO they will also cannibalise D5 sales as it appears the market does not like the styling of the D5.
Given the choice at similar price levels my choice would be a Grenadier. As long as they get quality better than Defender.
Regards PhilipA
This design looks really really really good.
The main value I see compared with the way LR is going is where there is a simpler non computer, non electronic way of engineering something they have taken this path - eg extra links in the front suspension with coils to provide good articulation and load carrying compared with compared with LR computer controlled air suspension.
LR have built in so many points of failure with their new designs and clearly are no longer to able to simulate all the ways things can go wrong - hence the problems they're having with D5's and new Defenders that they cannot solve.
Love the elegant modern simplicity of this vehicle !
There is nothing simple in the Gren...
It’s going to be a very expensive “desirable” for those with the money and the want of memory of designs from times now gone.
It’s still highly electronic, completely unproven, and it’s only claim to fame is a recognisable shape.
In all reality it is a bigger fraud of a Defender than those complaining about the new model being “not a Defender”.
Now if only Land Rover would dip their toe back in the commercial vehicle (cab chassis) market I might be tempted by a new Defender, alas it does not look likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
Regards,
Tote
Market is saturated. No money to be made competing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tote
Harsh reality but very real. Even the 7x utes are looking to wind up as they aren’t competitive.