Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

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Originally Posted by Gav 110

You can tell it’s the American version
The Adams family hand has snuck in for a look (feel)

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I recognise the power steering fluid reservoir. Looks like the Defender unit.

North America needs a diesel variant, IMO. I know at least one sale they can make. [emoji106]

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Originally Posted by Hoges

Went out to the Scenic Rim Adventure Park on Tamrookum Creek Rd, Sth of Beaudesert last Friday afternoon for a look-see. Came away somewhat impressed [thumbsupbig] at the comfort and suppleness of the ride. It has ample power...
It is truly an engineering prototype in every sense of the word in terms of the cabin layout...the fascia is 3D printed to give an idea of ergonomics etc. The windows are electric but the seats are "totally manual". There's no certainty at this stage about what's included in the base model... there's a school of thought that there might be three levels of fit-out to reduce production costs ...that will be announced in the next three months on their website "configurator"...

After wading through the flood waters in Sth Aust the week prior, the vehicle had been driven to Beaudesert via Mildura and Goondiwindi. It has a 90 litre fuel tank. Based on the reported top-up stops of the journey, we calculated the range is comfortably (very) in excess of 1,000 km. The B57 BMW inline6 diesel and the 8sp ZF auto seem well matched.

In July, the first run of "production" vehicles will be assembled and despatched to the UK, Australia and Sth Africa for Ineos execs and Agents for public test drives.

They're talking in terms of producing a minimum of 30,000 vehicles per year initially and ramping up. US vehicles are not scheduled until late 2023 and they're not intending to offer the Nth American market a diesel version... At this stage, local customer deliveries are slated for late October 2022... What with the current European geo-political tensions this might be wishful thinking if energy supplies are interrupted...

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Originally Posted by spudfan

I recognise the power steering fluid reservoir. Looks like the Defender unit.

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Hey Spud, I think your right

Did Hand point that out to you?[emoji12]

Maybe INEOS have picked up all the Land Rover leftovers cheap (I wonder what else is common with Land Rover) or maybe it’s a standard part for many makes of car??

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Gav

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Originally Posted by Gav 110

Hey Spud, I think your right

(I wonder what else is common with Land Rover)

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Gav

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Some probably hope not much[wink11][biggrin]

The whole thing does look very Defenderish though.

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Originally Posted by spudfan

I recognise the power steering fluid reservoir. Looks like the Defender unit.

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….which coincidently also looks like a BMW one….

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Originally Posted by Gav 110

You can tell it’s the American version
The Adams family hand has snuck in for a look (feel)

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Same as Disco 1 also. Cheers

It's a ZF one.
Don

When I look at the Grenadier I think this is the Defender that BMW would have produced to take on the Mercedes G wagon if it still owned LR (and definitely would have sent them bankrupt in the process).

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Originally Posted by DiscoDB

When I look at the Grenadier I think this is the Defender that BMW would have produced to take on the Mercedes G wagon if it still owned LR (and definitely would have sent them bankrupt in the process).

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I remember when BMW got control of Land Rover as part of a deal, they could not get their head around the live beam axles. These and all they implied were completely alien to the way they built cars. Fair enough they just got in before the TD5 came out and probably had some input into that but most of that had been sorted before BMW arrived on the scene. Personally I do not think BMW had the wish to develop a vehicle akin to the Defender to compete with the G Wagen as they were glad to off load Land Rover and stick at what they knew best. If they were interested in that line of vehicle they no doubt had the resources to go that route if they desired.

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Originally Posted by tc_s1

North America needs a diesel variant, IMO. I know at least one sale they can make. [emoji106]

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From the "For What it's Worth" Dept : there's a comment on another forum reporting a conversation during a 'walk-around' day in the US where the Ineos representative stated that Ineos was advised that it would be up for many millions of dollars to gain EPA approval to incorporate the BMW diesel in their offering, so they decided against it. (I personally do not know whether BMW offer a diesel version of the X5 or other models in the US).