Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

So…. Whilst cautiously looking at these, and mildly sad that the vehicle is so much of a clone of a defender - have ordered one!

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Originally Posted by Tombie

So…. Whilst cautiously looking at these, and mildly sad that the vehicle is so much of a clone of a defender - have ordered one!

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Drinking beer at Burra didn't influence your decision did it?


Regards,
Tote

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Originally Posted by Tombie

So…. Whilst cautiously looking at these, and mildly sad that the vehicle is so much of a clone of a defender - have ordered one!

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Given you were so close to getting a New Defender, this is probably quite telling.

So will you go with the Diesel or Petrol? Both would be very nice motors.

The more i look at them, the more i like them.

The telling point will be what they end up costing with the options.

Is $85K including on road costs?

For example;
1. Lockers
2. Winch
3. Snorkel
4. Leather
5. Ladder
6. Spare wheel storage
7. Internal storage / arm rest
8. compass

I suppose one could order, sell the engine as new, and put one of the Cummins crate diesel options in its place, if one were so inclined.

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Originally Posted by Hoges

From the "For What it's Worth" Dept : there's a comment on another forum reporting a conversation during a 'walk-around' day in the US where the Ineos representative stated that Ineos was advised that it would be up for many millions of dollars to gain EPA approval to incorporate the BMW diesel in their offering, so they decided against it. (I personally do not know whether BMW offer a diesel version of the X5 or other models in the US).

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Originally Posted by chuck

The more i look at them, the more i like them.

The telling point will be what they end up costing with the options.

Is $85K including on road costs?

For example;
1. Lockers
2. Winch
3. Snorkel
4. Leather
5. Ladder
6. Spare wheel storage
7. Internal storage / arm rest
8. compass

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At a guestimate i reckon you have specified a 100k vehicle approx mate. Lot of vehicle for the 6 figures though.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by tc_s1

I suppose one could order, sell the engine as new, and put one of the Cummins crate diesel options in its place, if one were so inclined.

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I reckon the BMW straight 6 diesel will be great. I wouldn't change it. If it self diagnoses is set up in line with what an offroader should be (ie not too sensitive...and it is just programming). Cheers

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Originally Posted by ozscott

I reckon the BMW straight 6 diesel will be great. I wouldn't change it. If it self diagnoses is set up in line with what an offroader should be (ie not too sensitive...and it is just programming). Cheers

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Won’t be available to him in the USA though.
They’re only getting the turbo petrol.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Won’t be available to him in the USA though.
They’re only getting the turbo petrol.

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It appears that BMW 2018 models were the last that BMW-US offered with a diesel option...they then ceased importing diesels to the USA due to low sales (some of which was attributed to a fall out from the VW diesel scandal) plus increased regulatory requirements. BMW e-cars and hybrids are the "go" [wink11]

Well, I was lucky enough to be invited to the Ineos Grenadier Queensland outing and all I can say is "I'm impressed"


Had a good opportunity to talk to the Ineos crew and go for a ride around the 4wd park. I was greatly surprised in the comfy level while driving over some rough terrain and the pickup speed when the driver planted his right foot - very impressive. For me, its what the new Defender should have been but it's probably a good thing that someone other than LR built this...


A couple of things I was (& still are) concerned with it the fuel range and the fitment of LR tanks. They say ARB will develop something but looking at the number of vehicles allotted to Australia in 2022 (only 200>300), I can't see anything being developed in the short term...
The other thing was the rear bash plate protecting the rear East/West Muffler with dual exhausts. To me, this would act as a scoop in Mud/sand. I asked the question to the Ineos crew and they said that hasn't been the case to date. Also, one of them said it would be a simple case of removing the BIG muffler and replace with a smaller one mounted North/South which would leave a big hole to mount either a water or fuel tank...


Anyway, here's a link to some photos I took from the day (hopefully the link works)


Oh, btw: The other thing I forgot to mention is that it is shorter than my Defender in regards to being able to sleep in the back. I'm around 6" in height and when I tried to lie (in a straight line) in the rear I had my feet/toes hanging out the back door... This may be solved by pushing the front seats forward - but I'm not sure...


Ineos Grenadier Qld Day outing Photos