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Yes im wearing one now as I type! They gave them away at the prototype drive back in January. This was at a 4wd park near Rathdowney QLD. Rehashed my wish list and comes in at just under 100k. My wife says go for it so now im in a quandary!Quote:
Originally Posted by Arapiles
Definitely the Trialmaster is my pick. F and R lockers and a few accessories. The rest of my wish list I can myself slowly as time and money allows. Plus you get a Trialmaster jacket which are worth 800 bucks apparently. Maybe thats what they named them after, fashion is not my forte so I have no idea.
So if you spec one up and say comes to $104,000 before on roads
What would that bring it to in Victoria??
Does anyone know if LCT applies??
I understand they are not LCT excempt. Do you mean is the LCT calculated on the total with specs? I imagine so but not sure as I have never paid LCT (I have a fundamental desire to avoid paying the Govt that additional tax [emoji1787] but it would get tougher down the track given how prices are going). Cheers
Hope they have made some of these issues less of an issue (as posted by one of our members who used to own a very nicely modded D2). Ineos Grenadier - THE ISSUES | SEPARATING THE FACTS FROM THE HYPE | A 4WD PERSPECTIVE - YouTube
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Yes I saw that review on you tube and it is certainly the most negative one I have seen about the Grenadier. Agree with a lot of his points. The front suspension arms are not long enough to get a reasonable axle articulation so the Flex is not going to be as good as a old defender. ( I'm talking about a easily modified defender with dislocation cones etc) The rear break over angle is not so good as well with the fuel tank hanging down at the back. I think British designers don't understand the importance of flex with the ruts and rocks we have in Australia and the USA. They seem to have mud in the UK! The fuel tank capacity is not a huge issue as he makes out. There are ways around that. I thought that if they were going to make it live axle why would you limit articulation so much with short arms. Also shocks are eye mount which also limits the suspension flex. Pin mount are far better. So I will be keeping my 20 year old defender for local 4wd trips that will give me my fix of that sort of fun. The Grenadier will be touring trips and the desert etc, towing a camper which it will do much better than a old defender. Perhaps though there are many other vehicles at a more reasonable price that can fit that criteria. That's the desision to make.
The original design criteria for the Grenadier did not include the hard-core/extreme 4WD enthusiast and although it's important to keep your wheels on the ground I'm sure that with F & R difflocks (which appear to be very reasonably priced) that the Grenadier will be more than capable in the 'rough'.
Apparantly, the most interest so far has come from the touring and caravanning markets who generally are after a reliable, comfortable and reasonably simple 4WD with adequate power and torque to handle their van/s.
Not too many 4WD's can be described as extreme hard core off roaders straight from the showroom floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtreme
We cancelled. Not throwing that coin at something that may be gone in 2 years.
People have complained that the new Defender is too expensive (fair enough) and that Ineos would build a cheaper Defender replacement.
Clearly in today’s environment it isn’t possible to make a decent enough profit at the price point.
Don’t get me wrong - this looks like a great vehicle, but it isn’t a cheap Defender replacement.
LR are chasing a different market with the new Defener and are selling plenty of them.
Ineos have now realised that a cheap Defender isn’t doable for the price/vehicle expectations.
Again - this looks like a great vehicle but to all the new Defender haters, this ain’t cheap…