Thread: Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

Recognising the end user needs and the market regulations Toyota makes the engine without electronics for the African market. Remember the electronics are a layer on top they are not required for the engine to operate

This is common across sectors even tractors for India are built in a low tech version for the same reason

The market can be interesting as the age of the National vehicle fleet reflects the prosperity of not just the operator but also the nation.

As an admittedly generalisation for example Toyota has a fair size distributor in Ethiopia. When the vehicles are too worn out for this market they migrate south to Sudan. Then there is the final move from Sudan to Somalia.

Now perhaps they have not considered this market however am not sure the Grenadier in current form will appeal to this market as unless they do as Toyota have the second and third part of the ownership cycle will not be keen due to complexity.

Originally Posted by spudfan

I enjoyed that. It was a pretty sensible over view. I take on board his comments on the engine bay seal. I know on the old Defender and series Land Rovers there was a gap or no seal as such when the bonnet was closed. To my mind this would help with keeping the engine cool. In Australia the seal will no doubt help keep out dust and sand but probably makes the cooling system work harder. Regarding the foot rest. I agree this could be a big factor on long journeys. I remember being in a charity tractor run in the series 111 2.25 diesel. Owing to the speed involved there was not much gear changing and I had to keep on moving my left leg and foot to stop it cramping up. So I think the automatic set up with the footrest could be an issue.

A great review.

Overall,a much better off the shelf set up vehicle for touring than the new Defender.It is better in just about every way,except for having diff pumpkins to get hung up on.
And possibly fuel economy,which is not a huge issue.
Hopefully QC will improve to the standards of some of the others.
I like being able to see Auto temps,which is very handy when working a vehicle hard,particularly if towing,or in soft sand.
Being ladder frame,no doubt many accessories will turn up in the next few years.
That is where modern LR's fall down,having a monocoque design,making it very difficult to fit accessories,and no GVM upgrades,etc,to tow the bigger vans.

But i wonder when European manufacturers will see the light and increase fuel tank size.

We now have a vehicle with a bigger tank and a huge range,we find it very handy.It will be hard to go back to a smaller tank.

And for those that are pedantic about the cost of fuel(which is not me),with a bigger tank,one should be able to follow the fuel cycle and save a heap of $$ as well.