Thread: Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

Originally Posted by Hoges

That was the original intention as "promised" in initial marketing as their point of difference. A recent letter of reply to members on the Ineos members forum from Lynne Calder, the global CEO of Ineos Grenadier also revealed that Ineos are exploring opportunities for the likes of Autel to develop a Grenadier diagnostic tool for owners (and by implication independentsw) to service the vehicles properly. It's early days...

I am well aware of the current situation with Ineos and the impending manual , I am also aware of the letter to Lyne from Tom.
I have in fact been following the forum very closely as I really want a Grenadier so am totally up to speed on all the good and bad along with the world wide trips that have and are being done in them.
still no t forking out 100+k for one at this point regardless of the few who worship the product
Like I stated if they do actually get the after sales service and issues sorted one will end up in my garage because on paper they are a brilliant product

Hoges

What have you done to yours if i may ask.

Picked up mine on Friday a MY 24 Sela Green Trial Master demo with leather & sunroofs - 2900km demonstrater first registered in March 25.

Got the rear table & checker plates fitted.

Considering the ORA Toro Bullbar & Warn winch in readiness for Christmas Trip to SA.

Enjoying it thus far.

Originally Posted by chuck

Hoges

What have you done to yours if i may ask.

Picked up mine on Friday a MY 24 Sela Green Trial Master demo with leather & sunroofs - 2900km demonstrater first registered in March 25.

Got the rear table & checker plates fitted.

Considering the ORA Toro Bullbar & Warn winch in readiness for Christmas Trip to SA.

Enjoying it thus far.

Would love to check it out one day.

Originally Posted by one_iota

The benefit that the Grenadier has over the new Defender is that it looks like you can take on a dirt road. One Yankie back packer said of my classic Defender "that truck sure looks gnarly". You don't have to do anything else to a Grenadier to make it look "gnarly" whereas I've had to bolt things onto my new Defender to make it look like it could be taken off the black top. After all perception is nine tenths of reality even if it isn't.

I see a lot of very shiny new defenders with various bits of shiny off road equipment driving around on the school run in town. Nice try but doesn't fool me.

A friend of mine who had just bough a new troopy described my defender as "hitting it out of the park" on looks.

Originally Posted by discomatt69

I am well aware of the current situation with Ineos and the impending manual , I am also aware of the letter to Lyne from Tom.
I have in fact been following the forum very closely as I really want a Grenadier so am totally up to speed on all the good and bad along with the world wide trips that have and are being done in them.
still no t forking out 100+k for one at this point regardless of the few who worship the product
Like I stated if they do actually get the after sales service and issues sorted one will end up in my garage because on paper they are a brilliant product

If they had actually kept to the price they originally promised then they would have sold a great many in Australia and they would have a chance of building a solid support network. Instead once they had delivered the vehicles they had committed to deliver at launch prices - they've really struggled to make sales after three of four consecutive price rises. Unlike other manufacturers Ineos don't make their sales numbers public, so all we know is that in august last year they boasted that they had delivered 1500 grenadiers and earlier hints were that this was largely the preorder book. Ever since then there has been discounting trying to shift cars. Sometimes cars that have been in Australia for a couple of years!. So we can guess that they aren't selling many.

In contrast Toyota sell about 1000 76 series a month and there are like 340k in Australia now. This is why Toyota has support everywhere remotely.

While they tried to copy the spirit of the defender they missed that utility vehicles need to be cheap. Personally I think the best case is they survive as a niche brand in Australia, but most likely is they will give up and leave Australia. Charging more for less is difficult. They need to be priced at least in the ballpark of the 76. There is soo much really good and well established competition in the price band they have set.. It's just not going to happen.

I think price is only for art of the reason they won’t sell in big numbers and to compare them to a crappy 70 series cruiser isn’t realistic either, it’s like comparing apples and oranges.
to get a cruiser to the same level as a Grenadier would cost at least 50k in mods which in turn void all warranty
it’s the build quality and issues that is holding them back the most, heating and cooling isn’t even a working item in many of them so for someone like myself who travels anywhere from the Vic high country in blizzard conditions to desert touring in the mid 30’s you have to have HVAC that is reliable

Originally Posted by loanrangie

Would love to check it out one day.

No problem, welcome to come & have a look

I float around Brunswick a bit for work if that suits.

Originally Posted by discomatt69

I think price is only for art of the reason they won’t sell in big numbers and to compare them to a crappy 70 series cruiser isn’t realistic either, it’s like comparing apples and oranges.
to get a cruiser to the same level as a Grenadier would cost at least 50k in mods which in turn void all warranty
it’s the build quality and issues that is holding them back the most, heating and cooling isn’t even a working item in many of them so for someone like myself who travels anywhere from the Vic high country in blizzard conditions to desert touring in the mid 30’s you have to have HVAC that is reliable

Dealer told me that if they could sell them at the price i bought my demo model for, he would not be able to get enough stock.

Had a few HVAC issues in new defender / air conditioner would not switch on, on three occasions & it was always when the cart had been sitting in the sun on a hot day.
or screen would go black
Would always fix itself however.

Heater is working well in the Grenadier & is getting a bit of use lately.