Thread: Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

Originally Posted by loanrangie

Value for money they crap all over the 79 and probably on par with a 76 once you spend big to make it usable.

The 76 also has way better GVM and payload than any other 4X4 wagon,although they are on pause ATM.

Both the 76 and 79 will absolutely smash the Grenadia in resale values,and no doubt long term reliablilty.

Originally Posted by loanrangie

Value for money they crap all over the 79 and probably on par with a 76 once you spend big to make it usable.

I disagree... you don't need all the stuff.

And for some people being able to buy a more basic vehicle for a lot less money and set it up just like you want has more appeal.

Maybe the Grenadier is cheaper if you want exactly what they are packaging.. but most people will still need to spend when they get it home.

Originally Posted by scarry

The 76 also has way better GVM and payload than any other 4X4 wagon,although they are on pause ATM.

Both the 76 and 79 will absolutely smash the Grenadia in resale values,and no doubt long term reliablilty.

Sometimes Scarry--Just sometimes, I think you would be more at home on the Toyota forum . Rusted on Toyota lovers can sometimes be persuaded to jump ship, just look at the success of the Nissan patrol V8. I think the first year it was released it sold about 9% of cruiser wagons
sales the next 17% then 25% and last year actually beat the Cruiser for a couple of months.

Originally Posted by scarry

The 76 also has way better GVM and payload than any other 4X4 wagon,although they are on pause ATM.

Both the 76 and 79 will absolutely smash the Grenadia in resale values,and no doubt long term reliablilty.

76 GXL - 795kg
Ineos TD 5 seater - 810kg diesel

79 GXL - 1125kg
Quartermaster TD 5 seater - 803kg

Originally Posted by Tombie

76 GXL - 795kg
Ineos TD 5 seater - 810kg diesel

79 GXL - 1125kg
Quartermaster TD 5 seater - 803kg

I presume you are talking payload?

Then your figures are incorrect,although open to be corrected.

Current models.

76GXL Kerb weight 2300Kg
GVM 3510Kg

79GXL Kerb weight 2185Kg
GVM 3510Kg

GCM is pretty high as well,at 7010 across all 70 series models,similar to Grenadier.

Originally Posted by sharmy

Sometimes Scarry--Just sometimes, I think you would be more at home on the Toyota forum . Rusted on Toyota lovers can sometimes be persuaded to jump ship, just look at the success of the Nissan patrol V8. I think the first year it was released it sold about 9% of cruiser wagons
sales the next 17% then 25% and last year actually beat the Cruiser for a couple of months.

I don't think the Patrol has been mentioned........nor has the Cruiser
FWIW,now you have brought it up,comparing numbers,the Cruiser was on pause for quite a few months last year.

Hopefully later this year (if I get over this ****ty cancer,( I have 5 more chemo sessions to go.) I may just buy a heavy duty twin cab ute and take off. The only 2 I would consider will be the 79 series or Quartermaster (like a lot of people) and its not an easy choice, but one thing that worries me about the Toyota is the 4 cylinder engine hauling 7000+ kgs. It was never originally made to do it and it's going to be very stressed. That said I might just go with a hard top roof top tent, then it makes more sense. The Quartermaster is still a bit of an unknown quantity and very expensive, but sounds like a joy to drive in comparison to the 79 series. Resale value is of no importance as I wont be around when its time to sell, as long as it doesn't be unreliable.