Air Malaysia missing.

**JDNSW** · 6th April 2014, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by strangy

The Hudson River ditching proves this possible.
All the ifs, buts, maybes and overall gibberish of baseless theories aside, the MH crew could have had a lot more time to plan than the Hudson River crew did.
Autopilot? No
Without meaning to, or starting a disparagement of the crew, I would be sceptical of the skill set, ie experience outside of a highly automated cockpit ,despite accrued hours, to successfully achieve this regardless of circumstances.

The Hudson R was dead calm - the southern Indian Ocean is never calm. And is usually one of the roughest bits of ocean anywhere.

John

**strangy** · 6th April 2014, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

The Hudson R was dead calm - the southern Indian Ocean is never calm. And is usually one of the roughest bits of ocean anywhere. John

The question was is it possible, the answer is yes.

**goingbush** · 6th April 2014, 07:06 PM

Thanks , Hudson river analogy is great,
I found this pic of flight 1549 recovery, I'd have thought both engines would have sheared off. amazing.

DiscoMick · 7th April 2014, 07:32 AM

And now a third ping, so they should be narrowing it down. Of course, the ocean there is 4.5 kms deep, so that's a major problem.

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**BMKal** · 7th April 2014, 08:22 AM

Except that the third "ping" (detected by the Australian ship towing the yank ping locator) is about 200 km from the two that the Chinese have detected.

I wouldn't think that has "narrowed down" the search area any.

Still .................... I suppose any "ping" is better than nothing.

**101RRS** · 7th April 2014, 01:21 PM

Also the Chinese were using a hand held pinger detector held over the side of a rubber duckie just below the surface - the real issue is that the flight box recorder pinger does not have the actual power to get tho the surface at the depths we are talking about so it is unlikely they heard the actual pinger. Apparently oceanographic equipment in the sea pings on the same frequency but I assume with different modulation.

I would be wary of any claims made by the Chinese.

Garry

**superquag** · 7th April 2014, 02:19 PM

I find it fascinating that the first pings were heard by the Chinese... and with such basic equipment.

We should re-visit this subject every year or so, interesting to see what and how it develops. My guess is that 'Truth' will be the last thing recovered, if at all.

Cynical Older James in Gosnells.

richard4u2 · 7th April 2014, 02:36 PM

if it is the plane, at 4.5 k down, wouldn't the water pressure crush the plane

**V8Ian** · 7th April 2014, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by richard4u2

if it is the plane, at 4.5 k down, wouldn't the water pressure crush the plane

If the fuselage is still airtight it will be floating, if it has sunk it will have equal water pressure in and outside; so no.

**Blknight.aus** · 7th April 2014, 05:39 PM

90% of the aircraft on the whole is denser than sea water, the only reason parts of planes float is because they are large and full of air, usually with some kind of honey combing

leave it sit in agitated water for long enough and it fills up and sinks.

ok so it broke into some sizeable chunks but how long do you think it would stay on the surface for in rough weather?

onto the airtight fusalage thing.

they are airtight inside to out.. once you put a higher pressure on the outside of the plane it lets the air in automatically. The vent valves and check valves are designed to keep the plane at or above the ambient outside pressure.

once it was on the water, even if it was a completely intact hull, it was only a matter of time.

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