Air Malaysia missing.

my wife works as a check in chick for international flights........as off yesterday morning they now have additional tasks/checks for each passenger........................don't get cranky at the chicks....blame Air Malaysia

even more reason to turn up early for your flight, bags under your allocated weight and cabin baggage that complies.......these three things are the biggest hold up at checkin

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Originally Posted by Ean Austral

I was more thinking some different fuel that would cause it to explode when the mixed av gas ran out and the other fuel became the main type going into the jet engines.

Just my simple brain at work.

Cheers Ean

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that would happen before they left the runway , they do chew up a lot of fuel getting off of the run way

If Malaysian customs had bothered to use the stolen passport system this may have not happened.

Another theory, could it have been landed in a remote area of China?

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Originally Posted by juddy

If Malaysian customs had bothered to use the stolen passport system this may have not happened.

Another theory, could it have been landed in a remote area of China?

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do you reckon Australia uses the database?...........the check in chicks have to do pretty much everything required for a traveller, they don't have access to the data base.

my guess is custom would not have the man power to check every traveller.....ever noticed how many traveller arrive just before check in closes and they have barely enough time to get though customs and board

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Originally Posted by juddy

If Malaysian customs had bothered to use the stolen passport system this may have not happened.

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You may very well be correct but the flights were not actually booked by those flying. The two booked a trip back to Europe at a travel agent with instructions to book cheapest flights. It was the travel agent who booked them on this flight. So it is unlikely that these people (were Europeans) on the stolen passports were responsible as the airline, flight and destination were a bit of a lucky dip.

While all is conjecture at this stage - if I had to put my money on an issue I would put it on a wing failure - the wing that was damaged some time back and is the result of fatigue cracks that were overlooked when the aircraft was checked after the incident.

Unfortunately there is a bit of history where these apparently minor incidents develop sometime later into something major.

But is all guesses at this time.

Garry

Any break-up of the fuselage at heights above Flight Level 100 would scatter debris over a huge area, much of it that would float indefinitely. The break-up of the airframe / fuselage on hitting water would also have a fair bit of floating debris. Air France Flight 447 is a recent example of this.

However, a successful controlled ditching could leave the entire plane intact, and thus sink intact with little or no trace of its where-abouts. The hopeful scenario in that case would be survivors in the water or in the aircrafts inflatable life boats.

Naturally until any part of the aircraft is found, everything is speculation. The aircraft could theoretically have been forced to descend to below radar tracking level and fly in ground effect to land somewhere. Its range would depend on fuel, a jet with even the most modern high-bypass turbine engines consumes a lot of fuel flying and manoeuvring at low altitudes.

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Unfortunately there is a bit of history where these apparently minor incidents develop sometime later into something major.

But is all guesses at this time.

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This comes out time and time again in that tv show "Air Crash Investigation' and other investigative programs.

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Originally Posted by Orkney 90

Naturally until any part of the aircraft is found, everything is speculation. The aircraft could theoretically have been forced to descend to below radar tracking level and fly in ground effect to land somewhere. Its range would depend on fuel, a jet with even the most modern high-bypass turbine engines consumes a lot of fuel flying and manoeuvring at low altitudes.

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Could also have been taken by aliens. We won't know for sure until the aircraft is properly investigated.

At the end of the day, I believe air travel is still the safest form of travel. I think the statistics show this.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Could also have been taken by aliens. We won't know for sure until the aircraft is properly investigated.

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I want to believe

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Originally Posted by weeds

do you reckon Australia uses the database?...........the check in chicks have to do pretty much everything required for a traveller, they don't have access to the data base.

my guess is custom would not have the man power to check every traveller.....ever noticed how many traveller arrive just before check in closes and they have barely enough time to get though customs and board

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I would like to hope they do.

My question was not aimed at the airlines checkin protocols, more the system in place if there was one that flags up a void passport at immigration. Is the scanning of passports at KLI just a Malaysian scanning system thats not linked to the INTERPOL online database?

Apparently relatives of the Chinese passengers have reported that the phones that where on the flight ring out. This would be nigh on impossible if there was a high speed impact with either the sea or land and if the sea the phones would be very deep under water. Also there is reports that some of the passengers face book or twitter accounts show them as being on line.
Cheers Hall