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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    It's coming out (Friday night) that the co-pilot has previously endured a debilitating and long term bout of depression...
    I'd be worried if any pilot was on anti-depressants, many of which have been associated with quite a few youth-perpetrated killings. I've heard (ok, "read"...) that the side-effects can be permanantly mind-altering for some people.
    A scary thought !
    dont be to quick to blame the drugs, some of them have really nasty side effects and others have worse things if you develop a dependancy on them and stop them but the depression itself, if it hits you hard enough and long enough the depression it self will permanently change you.

    so many things have the ability to be a trigger some of them stupidly minor, (for exampletheres a forum member whose user name reminds me of how bad I got ever time I read it, its not the person, its not the posts its just the word that is the name and If I'm down in a trough it hits hard its like cracking a dam and theres nothing you can do till the torrent subsides then you have to fight your way through rebuild and the clean up) and one minute you can be standing there solid as a rock the next you've got the mental integrity of a jelly fish, sometimes you just stop, sometimes you'll loose track of everything and in the want to get back to being what you remember yourself being you just do something. Sometimes that something can be the worst thing to be doing in that situation but its all you can think of to do and you dont realise how bad your making things. I'f your lucky you'll have a friend on hand who'll tell you and help you, if your lucky you'll pop out of it yourself sometimes you just get in a loop and do the same thing over and over.

    If you're lucky it doesnt happen while you're doing something that's going to kill you or your friends

    IF you're not.............

    I can easilly see how it happened if the co-pilot had had depression, the pilot goes out for a drink, stretch his legs the security door closes behind him the co pilot is alone, he hears a vocie on the radio that sounds like the person he lost he sticks into a fuge, he reacts to something instinctively and then stalls himself.

    I've done it, I was vaccuming, the dads4kids add came on the kids voice that sounds like alex's said dad and the next thing I knew it was dark outside the breaker on the powerboard let go. I dont know how long it takes for one of those cheaper vacuum cleaners to get so hot it blows a circuit breaker.

    I feel sorry for those who lost their lives on the plane, I feel worse for those who are about to go through this because of it.
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    Ah, I see that You've been here too...

    Makes it all the more important to have a friend or two, and to make "listening to them" the default reaction when you don't feel the best.

    Like trusting your instruments in cloud...

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    The blue fog

    Sometimes I don't realise I am having a moment until the Misses tells me.

    Talking about the problem is the only way for me to handle it, as taking antidepressants had led me to having too many side-effects.

    I don't like driving long distances anymore without someone with me to keep me chirpy.

    I am very careful these days in the way I go about doing my work, the pain from a recurrence of my back injury or joint pain is a trigger for my problems, so I have a spell and work out a easier way of going about a job to prevent another bout of pain.
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    Lufthansa will be hoping they didn't know or have any evidence of this guys problems, mental and physical, the lawyers will hang them out to dry, probably will anyway. News is saying on top of the dexpression issues he was losing his sight, which probably doesn't help the mental state too much

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    I'm going out on a limb here...and guessing the anti-depressants he was on are SSRI's. - which have been a associated with some nasty mass- killings by young men.

    Logically, a depressed person will be less likely to report long-term side effects - if they have'nt been on them long enough to be fully affected...and less likely to report any they may recognize. or NOT recognize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    Ah, I see that You've been here too...

    Makes it all the more important to have a friend or two, and to make "listening to them" the default reaction when you don't feel the best.

    Like trusting your instruments in cloud...
    nope, still here...

    not being helped when the people that are supposed to be helping tell you things like "I thought you were being difficult but I just read the email trail, you raise some valid points"

    really not helping that exactly the same thing that starts it all off is happening again.

    especially not helping not sleeping even tho I'm up to the full dose of temtabs i mean the worked the first night, a little the second and third and then friday... I woke up at 0400 and excusing the stalls Ive had while IVe been doing stuff around the house,

    The dogs well exercised tho.
    Dave

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    I can tell you Aropax was a battle to get off and had some horrifying effects and withdrawal effects that bigpharma don't want to admit to.

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