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    Yes, the investigation should be able to determine the cause. And very likely, if it was a bomb, where it was, and what it was in.

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    It would not be hard for a small bomb placed in a vulnerable spot by a member of the tarmac crew.
    In the middle eastern countries corruption is endemic, as are the family connections.
    It is now a good time for Australia to beef up it's real airport security, not this pathetic swabbing and taking knitting needles (plastic) off ladies.
    It would also be smart to match boarding pass with positive ID at the gate which is standard everywhere else in the world but Oz.
    Most places overseas I have worked everybody going airside goes through the scanner and physical pat down. ID is checked at least 3 times by different security people. All bags are xrayed and opened.
    My toolbox was inventoried both in and out. All catering is supervised loading both in the kitchens and onto the aircraft.
    I once forgot to get a maintenance log from a pilot so I walked back into the terminal to get it. I had to go through the full security and ID/Airside pass check to go back airside.
    We have taken turns to do the lunch run and that even gets xrayed and opened.
    It is high time we got real serious about our security in our own country or else we will find we have such a tragedy brought on by some religious nut case here. The recent shooting of the innocent police accountant will only be the tip of the iceberg and by the amount of air travel I do it will be my dumb luck to be on that aircraft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plane Fixer View Post
    ...It is now a good time for Australia to beef up it's real airport security, not this pathetic swabbing and taking knitting needles (plastic) off ladies. It would also be smart to match boarding pass with positive ID at the gate which is standard everywhere else in the world but Oz.
    Boarded a cruise liner in Singapore a few years ago. The passport and boarding papers were checked at 5 separate security checks during the boarding process. Never seen anything like this level of security for an airline.
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    We had that level of security at Hassi Mesoud in Algeria and more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plane Fixer View Post
    It would not be hard for a small bomb placed in a vulnerable spot by a member of the tarmac crew.
    In the middle eastern countries corruption is endemic, as are the family connections.
    It is now a good time for Australia to beef up it's real airport security, not this pathetic swabbing and taking knitting needles (plastic) off ladies.
    It would also be smart to match boarding pass with positive ID at the gate which is standard everywhere else in the world but Oz.
    Most places overseas I have worked everybody going airside goes through the scanner and physical pat down. ID is checked at least 3 times by different security people. All bags are xrayed and opened.
    My toolbox was inventoried both in and out. All catering is supervised loading both in the kitchens and onto the aircraft.
    I once forgot to get a maintenance log from a pilot so I walked back into the terminal to get it. I had to go through the full security and ID/Airside pass check to go back airside.
    We have taken turns to do the lunch run and that even gets xrayed and opened.
    It is high time we got real serious about our security in our own country or else we will find we have such a tragedy brought on by some religious nut case here. The recent shooting of the innocent police accountant will only be the tip of the iceberg and by the amount of air travel I do it will be my dumb luck to be on that aircraft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferret View Post
    Boarded a cruise liner in Singapore a few years ago. The passport and boarding papers were checked at 5 separate security checks during the boarding process. Never seen anything like this level of security for an airline.
    I have, & so has Wifey, BUT,.......not in Aus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plane Fixer View Post
    It would not be hard for a small bomb placed in a vulnerable spot by a member of the tarmac crew.
    In the middle eastern countries corruption is endemic, as are the family connections.
    It is now a good time for Australia to beef up it's real airport security, not this pathetic swabbing and taking knitting needles (plastic) off ladies.
    It would also be smart to match boarding pass with positive ID at the gate which is standard everywhere else in the world but Oz.
    Most places overseas I have worked everybody going airside goes through the scanner and physical pat down. ID is checked at least 3 times by different security people. All bags are xrayed and opened.
    My toolbox was inventoried both in and out. All catering is supervised loading both in the kitchens and onto the aircraft.
    I once forgot to get a maintenance log from a pilot so I walked back into the terminal to get it. I had to go through the full security and ID/Airside pass check to go back airside.
    We have taken turns to do the lunch run and that even gets xrayed and opened.
    It is high time we got real serious about our security in our own country or else we will find we have such a tragedy brought on by some religious nut case here. The recent shooting of the innocent police accountant will only be the tip of the iceberg and by the amount of air travel I do it will be my dumb luck to be on that aircraft.

    We recently flew from Mt. Isa to Brisbane. Security at the airport at the Isa was casual. As it is, I suggest, at most regional centres. Should we be concerned? perhaps.


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    Putin is drawing up plans to evacuate Russians from the country. There must be some concern about terrorist activity.


    bomb may have downed Metrojet plane
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    We recently flew from Mt. Isa to Brisbane. Security at the airport at the Isa was casual. As it is, I suggest, at most regional centres. Should we be concerned? perhaps.


    Putin is drawing up plans to evacuate Russians from the country. There must be some concern about terrorist activity.

    Unfortunately in Australia there is a head in the sand regards proper security as it is expensive if done properly, and this means upping the passenger service levy. This will kill the low cost market where the pax demand the lowest fare.
    Do not even harbour the thought that terrorists are silly; in fact I do believe that they have done their own assessment of all regional airports and will pick an opportune moment in line with their ideology to strike.
    If the Metrojet was downed by terrorists Russia's response will be brutal with no holds barred which will further inflame the situation.
    We do live in interesting times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plane Fixer View Post
    If the Metrojet was downed by terrorists Russia's response will be brutal with no holds barred which will further inflame the situation.
    We do live in interesting times.

    Send in the pit bulls, I reckon. About time the cruel bastards got some of their own back. And it will force Putin to put up, or shut up.
    Last edited by p38arover; 19th November 2015 at 03:34 PM. Reason: fix quote
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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