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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
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    If the plane had a issue prior to landing and the tower was notified ( not saying it was ) would the fire appliance not have been at the ready? Looking at the stills and video nothing was on standby.

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    Yeah,if the tower was informed they would have had every piece of emergency equipment staged at the runway start ready to pick up the pieces.
    Strange accident, would I be right in saying not the first 777 that had landing gear 'issues'?

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    For what it is worth, I don't think it was landing gear issues - I think the gear was retracted because a go round was left too late or badly executed, perhaps because of wind shear. No doubt the answer will be apparent from the flight data recorders.

    Conditions for landing were far from perfect - very hot and strong, gusty wind, although I don't think this is unusual there, and it was the pilots' home base, so they should have been familiar with the conditions.

    There is always the possibility of technical problems, such as the engines failed to respond properly when the go round was initiated, but again, the data recorders should either rule this out or clearly show it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolly View Post
    However the Flap handle has to pass through a 'gate' to put it into a non-standard position for a go-round. That is single or all engines operating.


    Correct, Rolly, but it's quite easy to move the flap lever through the gates and inadvertently select a different setting to what's desired.....
    Word from an insider is a significant tailwind on final, late configuration and not stable (which led to the go-around) were contributing factors. No mention of fatigue yet.
    Either way, the pilots will be dealt with in the usual Emirates way

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    "... Either way, the pilots will be dealt with in the usual Emirates way..."

    - Fired ?
    - Firing squad ?

    or, flogged with a feather. . . ?

    The initial reports I heard suggested a late-ish 'go-around', tail-wind increasing... add "modern Fly-By-Wire computers" interpreting pilot inputs...and things just went pear-shaped from there.
    - Talk about holes in the cheese lining up.

    B/Box report and analysis will be interesting...

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    Hahaha Fired, if they aren't sent to gaol first, for 'causing the death of a firey'.

    I'm thinking the calling of "positive rate" when it's only 'sort of a positive' rate.

    I'm glad it wasn't me. I'm sure we'll all learn something from it....

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    I noticed in the Weekend Australian that an ex emirates pilot on the same model 300 gave the opinion that because the plane is 70 metres long the tail could have struck the ground on the go around.

    He said that there were many tail strikes on takeoff on this model until the take off procedures were modified in training.
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    It's a possibility, PhillipA but depends on the aircraft. Some 777's have tailstrike protection in the FBW, whereas others don't.

    I don't think there was a gear malfunction. More like it was in transit when it touched down. Up or down? We'll soon find out....

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