Thread: Emirates plane crash at Dubai, panic in the cabin.

Getting all those people out was a good job.

Emirates Boeing 777 Explodes on Dubai Runway After Crash Landing - NBC News

Seems that there are conflicting reports over whether it was lowered, lowered and collapsed, raised to do a go around....
Accident: Emirates B773 at Dubai on Aug 3rd 2016, touched down during go-around without gear, aircraft on fire

Getting all those people out was a good job.

But they all completely ignored the direction to leave all personal belongings, which caused the mayhem.
It must have all happened in slow motion for them to get out.
Really a lesson in what not to do.
Regards Philip A

You will almost always lose height during the initiation of a go-around. Not sure if the Tripler has the same TOGA logic as the 737, but the first push of TOGA gives a reduced thrust for, say, a 1000fpm climb. A second press gives full go-around thrust. There's a marked difference in performance between the two

I've used both, depending on the reason for the go-around.

Reports say that ambient air temperature was above 50C, with strong gusting wind. Quite possibly the reason for requesting a go-round, and a contributor to the accident as well.

John

Originally Posted by Hugh Jars

You will almost always lose height during the initiation of a go-around. Not sure if the Tripler has the same TOGA logic as the 737, but the first push of TOGA gives a reduced thrust for, say, a 1000fpm climb. A second press gives full go-around thrust. There's a marked difference in performance between the two

I've used both, depending on the reason for the go-around.

looks like it give an input for 2000fpm climb

"On approach, a single push of the TO/GA lever moves the thrust levers to a
thrust value to climb at 2,000 fpm. A second push moves the thrust levers to
full go-around thrust.
An AfT disconnect switch is on the left and right thrust lever. Push an AfT
disconnect switch to disconnect the AfT and show the AUTOTHROTTLE
DISC caution message on the EICAS display. To reset the
AUTOTHROTTLE DISC caution message, push the AfT disconnect switch"

Originally Posted by PhilipA

But they all completely ignored the direction to leave all personal belongings, which caused the mayhem.
It must have all happened in slow motion for them to get out.
Really a lesson in what not to do.
Regards Philip A

I agree, it took a while before one of the cabin staff asserted any authority, by that time the panic had set in. Once the cabin staff got over the initial shock, it was sorted reasonably quickly. Hard to say how you would react in that situation. Cool calm assertive leadership required. Easier said than done.

Originally Posted by muddymech

looks like it give an input for 2000fpm climb



"On approach, a single push of the TO/GA lever moves the thrust levers to a

thrust value to climb at 2,000 fpm. A second push moves the thrust levers to

full go-around thrust.

An AfT disconnect switch is on the left and right thrust lever. Push an AfT

disconnect switch to disconnect the AfT and show the AUTOTHROTTLE

DISC caution message on the EICAS display. To reset the

AUTOTHROTTLE DISC caution message, push the AfT disconnect switch"

Typical sequence of events:

"Go around, flaps 15" (pilot flying)
"Positive rate" (of climb) (pilot not flying)
"Gear up, check thrust" (pilot flying)

A possibility is during the go-around the flaps may have inadvertently been selected to less than 15, and once they pass that in the retract sequence the aircraft would resume a descent which can often end up with this outcome......