Thread: Sadly, 176 people have died in air crash in Iran

It seems to me that some countries need a Despot to rule them like it or not, & when a vacuum occurs the countries seem to run into all sorts of Civil disorder. Iraq, Libya & probably others that are generally not known. Australians wouldn't tolerate it but the above two were like chooks with their bonces missing.

Originally Posted by 4bee

It seems to me that some countries need a Despot to rule them like it or not, & when a vacuum occurs the countries seem to run into all sorts of Civil disorder.

correct, they need an iron fist

Originally Posted by Pickles2

One point I forgot to add.
One of the persons that I mentioned was very "Angry" with the Americans, sort of "sneered" at them,........but not for the reason you might think.
As I've said, it appears there is little that the Iranian people can do to change the "Regime", although they would like to. This person gave me the impression that many had expected America, in view of rhetoric etc, to "do something" about the regime, but, in reality, had done nothing of any consequence, "leaving them in the lurch"/ helpless, so to speak.
Now I make no secret of the fact that when the Iraq war started, I was all in favor, "Stormn Norman", & all that. But looking at the aftermath, I wonder if the same would occur in Iran. It seems to me that many of these countries can only function under the dictatorial, and yes certainly cruel & inhumane rule, currently existing in this part of the World.
Pickles.

I really didn't want to jump into this politicised flight thread, but I give you this advice. Buy and read' FIASCO, the American military adventure in Iraq' by Thomas E Ricks. Check it out on Amazon, or similar site.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

One point I forgot to add.
One of the persons that I mentioned was very "Angry" with the Americans, sort of "sneered" at them,........but not for the reason you might think.
As I've said, it appears there is little that the Iranian people can do to change the "Regime", although they would like to. This person gave me the impression that many had expected America, in view of rhetoric etc, to "do something" about the regime, but, in reality, had done nothing of any consequence, "leaving them in the lurch"/ helpless, so to speak.
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Conspiracy theory hat on!
There is a 99.99% probability that the US don't want to change the Iranian regime.
Unless a US pres is elected that has zero ties to their military industrial string pulling puppeteers, there is no chance that the US would want any ending of hostilities between middle eastern factions. it's not good for business, so to speak.
So while they may want to get themselves out of there, that doesn't mean they want to see peace!

Every president has to have there war.
Trumpy is running out of time.

And bugger everyone they get involved! Maybe he'd like to pick up a gun & go & fight his own war. away from civilisation.

I doubt that, since he repeatedly dodged Vietnam by running some bull excuse.

Don't know about Trump, but George Bush the younger certainly appeared to get squirreled away to some Nat. Air Guard backwater & apparently did bugger all service. Daddy's influence? I'll leave you to judge that.

Edited. Ah ha, seems Trump was a coward as well. No further comment.

When Mr McCain’s plane was shot down over Hanoi during his 23rd bombing mission Mr Trump, nine years his junior, was studying the real estate business at Pennsylvania University’s esteemed Wharton School. He was able to avoid conscription through a series of student deferments, as well as a medical deferment for a bone spur in his foot.

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