Air India crash

**JDNSW** · 15th June 2025, 04:16 PM

The flight data recorder has been recovered, and should directly answer this. But as you say, if it did .......... look to the immediate grounding of all affected aircraft.

**Tins** · 15th June 2025, 06:25 PM

And the CVR? Have they found that?

**Eevo** · 16th June 2025, 03:16 PM

i trust this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-MA...andAutomobiles

**V8Ian** · 16th June 2025, 04:34 PM

Which leaves a couple more theories. A, someone turned the key off, or B, the choke was pushed in too soon.

**BradC** · 16th June 2025, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Tins

And the CVR? Have they found that?

The 787 has a pair of "EAFR" which record data, voice, location parameters and a few other bits and bobs I can't remember. There's one forward and one aft and they both record everything. The forward recorder also has 10 minutes battery backup.

They've both been recovered, so they should have everything they need.

**Tins** · 21st June 2025, 10:24 AM

**Tins** · 25th June 2025, 11:22 AM

Can't speak to the veracity of this. Can't really say I even understand a lot of it on one viewing, but you may find it interesting. Also the comments.

**JDNSW** · 25th June 2025, 12:45 PM

I understand what he is saying, and it makes sense, as a possible scenario. But it is not the only one. The answer will lie in the data recorders, but if this scenario is confirmed, Boeing is in trouble!

**Tins** · 25th June 2025, 01:51 PM

Deep trouble. Would just about be the end of Boeing as we know it. After the MCAS debacle it’s difficult to conceive of any way out for management. I seriously hope it isn’t the case, as we don’t need a major collapse, but perhaps a breakdown back to pre MD takeover days might be necessary, although it may be impossible.

**JDNSW** · 25th June 2025, 05:09 PM

Not only Boeing in trouble - the world's airline industry as well. Most of the world's airline fleet is Boeing, and the only viable replacement is Airbus - but last I heard their order book is full for at least four years, and it would take years for them to make significant increases in production rates.

So let's hope that some other scenario is confirmed. Although the one proposed above is certainly possible - I did not realise how this aircraft is so electrical power dependent. And given it is, it seems that a lot of the equipment is excessively fault prone, probably due to poor quality control from the design phase to production.

Probably a direct result of MBAs in control.

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