Thread: Airliner chat

Lets hope they get some more funds
or the vulcan may never fly again after next month

Originally Posted by VladTepes

frenchie -

I am an aviation nut / fan / whatever and have a special soft spot for:
- Anything de-Havilland.................

A couple of years ago (2008) flew out to the Horizontal waterfalls from Derby (WA).
I was quite suprised to find this old Beaver not only flying, but still certified to carry paying passengers. A minimum of 40 years old if it's a day.



Certainly a mixture of the old and the new at Derby.

1. De Havilland Beaver
2. Gippsland Aviation GA8 with cargo pod
3. Cessna 206 ?



Though we flew out to the Horizontal falls in this, pilot "Mal" was an ex-Vietnam era pilot and very professional.



Cessna Caravan Seaplane.

The floats are a bit like icebergs, 2/3 under the water. Must make it hard to take off with all that drag. Remember a bloke I used to work with was a engineer in the RAAF during WWII said they had strap on "rockets" which they could use to help take off. No turbo props in those days I suppose.

Deano

Originally Posted by VladTepes

Did you know that the first Vulcan to ever visit Australia (the first delivered to the RAF at that) crashed on its return to England? While the pilots ejected safely, the 4 rear crew were killed.


YouTube- Round-The-World Vulcan crashes

I would have been a Kid of about 5 years old, when the Vulcan over flew Nelson airport ( NZ) at there annual air show. I was amazed then and am still amazed today with that aircraft

Originally Posted by DeanoH

A couple of years ago (2008) flew out to the Horizontal waterfalls from Derby (WA).
I was quite suprised to find this old Beaver not only flying, but still certified to carry paying passengers. A minimum of 40 years old if it's a day.



Certainly a mixture of the old and the new at Derby.

1. De Havilland Beaver
2. Gippsland Aviation GA8 with cargo pod
3. Cessna 206 ?



Though we flew out to the Horizontal falls in this, pilot "Mal" was an ex-Vietnam era pilot and very professional.



Cessna Caravan Seaplane.

The floats are a bit like icebergs, 2/3 under the water. Must make it hard to take off with all that drag. Remember a bloke I used to work with was a engineer in the RAAF during WWII said they had strap on "rockets" which they could use to help take off. No turbo props in those days I suppose.

Deano

Not a Cessna 206, a Cessna 210. The 206 is fixed gear and has wing struts.

The 210 is a fast, economical plane with a good payload, but takes a bit of care flying - in particular, the margin between normal cruise and VNE is quite small, and the margin between normal cruise and flap extension speed or gear extension speed is quite large. And since they are quite slippery, this means good planning for descent to avoid excess speed and overcooling the engine, since unlike, for example, the Beech A36 (a direct competitor) you can't use gear extension as an airbrake to get a steeper descent.

John

I saw Beavers working out of Vancouver harbour last year. I took a flight in a turbo Otter.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Not a Cessna 206, a Cessna 210. The 206 is fixed gear and has wing struts.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

The 210 is a fast, economical plane with a good payload, but takes a bit of care flying - in particular, the margin between normal cruise and VNE is quite small, and the margin between normal cruise and flap extension speed or gear extension speed is quite large. And since they are quite slippery, this means good planning for descent to avoid excess speed and overcooling the engine, since unlike, for example, the Beech A36 (a direct competitor) you can't use gear extension as an airbrake to get a steeper descent.

John

Not a C210 either. The plane on the right, VH-JYH, is a Cessna C177 Cardinal. A very underpowered but economical 4 seat aircraft.

Unfortunately these guys had a misshap with one of their beavers last year. VH-IDO was landed near the falls on the water with the landing gear extended and it flipped on touchdown. Very expensive and very embarrassing. Thankfully nobody was injured. VH-IMU was flown for the recent tourist season by a Canadian Pilot, Gordon Williams, who is one of the nicest and most interesting fellows you could wish to chat to. I dare say Gordon has also flown those Beavers out of Vancouver.

VH-IDO was an ex-Super Spread (originally of Moorabin) Beaver that spent many thousands of hours spreading supephosphate around Victoria and Southern NSW and also sowing rice in the Riverina. The Beaver would have to be one of the great "Classic" aircraft still flying today.

I was flying out of Derby and Broome beside these guys during August - October last year before the heat set in!!

Originally Posted by HUE166

Not a C210 either. The plane on the right, VH-JYH, is a Cessna C177 Cardinal. A very underpowered but economical 4 seat aircraft.
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Oops! Didn't even think of them. I'm slightly surprised that there are any still about.

The 177 was produced from 1968-78, but while it was introduced as a 172 replacement, it had handling problems compared to the 172 (soon improved by modifications to the stabilator), cost more to build, and always sold less than the 172, which was introduced in 1956 to supplement the conventional undercarriage 170, and is still in production, having delivered over 43,000, almost certainly the most successful aircraft ever designed.

John

I Hope I don't sound like a smarty pants in that last post. You just struck a cord with my recent past John!! I hope you enjoyed your trip.

I'm a bit of a flying nut too!!

Cheers,

Rohan.