Thread: Qantas, your thoughts

Originally Posted by clean32

this full of **** guy has flowen on 31 difrent airlines with an average of 18.7 hours on international flights over the period of 1997 to 2007 per week

average fleet ages are avalble here

Fleet age Qantas - Airfleets

it took a while to go though my lose PP pagers

at least we can agree on something!

On fleet ages:
Emirates 5.8 years
Continental 8.3 years
Air France 9.1 years
Air Canada 9.8 years
Air New Zealand 9.8 years
Air India 10.4 years.
Garuda Indonesia 10.3 years.
Qantas 10.8 years
Japan Airlines 10.8 years
British Airways 11.5 years
Thai 12 years
Malaysia 13.4 years
Delta 13.5 years
United 13.6 years
American Airlines 14.7 years

all of which proves not very much.

the statistic isn't all that useful as it is heavily distorted by various factors. e.g. Continental has purchased a huge number of late model 737 aircraft recently. Prior to those very recent purchases fleet age would have been CONSIDERABLY older.

Also some airlines transfer their older aircraft into subsidiaries which therefore makes their fleet age newer.

Air India's fleet is statistically newer - would you rather fly them If so you must be insane.

Garuda Indonesia has a younger fleet than Qantas but there are a growing number of countries they aren't allowed to fly to as they are so bloody unsafe .

Fleet age is NOT the main game here, clean32. You are misguided.

Originally Posted by VladTepes

Fleet age is NOT the main game here, clean32. You are misguided.

please re read the ( according to you ) *** i have posted an respond in context if you are at all possable of doing so.

any way to address your point, are you claiming that a 10 year old air craft with say 4000 landings and takeoffs are as safe as a new aircraft?

NB we are talking about aircraft and not Pumas here.

and are you saying clean that new aircraft are reliable...?

If so as far as I have been made aware the A380 is not that reliable and a number of mechanics hate them!!

I have also heard (can't claim it is true though) that one company that had a number of them on order wants to cancel...as they have numerous problems with them on the ground since putting them in to service.

Originally Posted by clean32

oh so you would rather stay with the commie pot bellyed 3 hour luch buch who call it a bad year if the earn less than 200K??

actualy intances have droped, its only the reporting that has increased

My friend runs a hotel here in NZnear the airport where they used to combine Air NZ and Qantas maintence staff , He said it was amazing to watch they had 2.5 qantas guys doing what a AIr NZ guy would do taking 40% longer to do it and demanding a higher class of accomadation and corparate cabs to take them to and fro from work!!!. The workers damanded 5 star hotels of a higher grade than the bosses got, Even the air NZ guys were amazed at the featherbedding, Lets hope at least they do a good job!!!

Originally Posted by dullbird

and are you saying clean that new aircraft are reliable...?

If so as far as I have been made aware the A380 is not that reliable and a number of mechanics hate them!!

I have also heard (can't claim it is true though) that one company that had a number of them on order wants to cancel...as they have numerous problems with them on the ground since putting them in to service.

They're a bit like Puma's DB. Still working out a few bugs but generally a wonderful aircraft and very efficient too. Not sure if they have limp home mode though.

And will you grumble bums play nice...otherwise I will start talking about whether a 2 yo Puma is safer than a 10 yo Td5 - depends on it's service history and treatment!

are they any good?
Sorry, with my spanglish I am about which puma are refering to

The specs are HERE

Originally Posted by Sleepy

They're a bit like Puma's DB. Still working out a few bugs but generally a wonderful aircraft and very efficient too. Not sure if they have limp home mode though.

And will you grumble bums play nice...otherwise I will start talking about whether a 2 yo Puma is safer than a 10 yo Td5 - depends on it's service history and treatment!

Oh I can appreciate that however having a claim that new aircraft are reliable is ludicrous I think....for this very reason.
I know a couple of mechanics that would not share your view of a wonderful aircraft in Oz and the UK....at the moment.

Originally Posted by dullbird

and are you saying clean that new aircraft are reliable...?

doint fish, i said safer.