for those thinking about LPG here is my feedback

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Originally Posted by pop058

Which motors would that be. :confused: Ford have a factory (dedicated) Gas option for thier 6 cylinders. I can't see them not being suitable

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Commodores have two motor options. One for use with petrol and one that can use either. If you try gas on the normal motor then you're in deep s**t (that's if the installer is stupid enough to do it)

Anyone had LPG on a series landy with a holden donk? I'm considering putting mine on gas to make it a bit cheaper as a daily driver but I want to keep my dual fuel (petrol) tanks as well. We used to fit a "black box" to your dizzy to change the spark curve between gas and petrol when you switched between them - is this still done (or something like it) for carby/non computer engines?

Its been a very long time since I had anything to do with LPG - we used to fit IMPCO converters and mixers, everything else was a cheaper brand, that seemed to give the best performance - I'd be keen to hear of others experiences with this kind of application (series landy with holden).

cheers,

Adam

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Originally Posted by pop058

Which motors would that be. :confused: Ford have a factory (dedicated) Gas option for thier 6 cylinders. I can't see them not being suitable

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My ex-mil Landy mate (ex-RAEME mechanic), whom some of you will know, drives an ex-taxi Ford factory dedicated LPG car that was driven by his girlfriend as a taxi. It will get from Sydney to Melbourne on a tank of gas and is about to click over 1,000,000 Km without any engine failures apart from regular service. He also did the servicing of the car as a taxi.

You can't complain about reduced engine reliability on LPG with examples like that running around.

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Originally Posted by akelly

Anyone had LPG on a series landy with a holden donk? I'm considering putting mine on gas to make it a bit cheaper as a daily driver but I want to keep my dual fuel (petrol) tanks as well. We used to fit a "black box" to your dizzy to change the spark curve between gas and petrol when you switched between them - is this still done (or something like it) for carby/non computer engines?

Its been a very long time since I had anything to do with LPG - we used to fit IMPCO converters and mixers, everything else was a cheaper brand, that seemed to give the best performance - I'd be keen to hear of others experiences with this kind of application (series landy with holden).

cheers,

Adam

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A holden motor is a holden motor.
I used to drive a Kingswood taxi around Melb in the 70's & the owner owned & serviced 42 cabs at his own garage. I asked him what modifications he did & his answer surprised me- he fitted a fan blade with more fins. :eek:
He was a cheapskate, but there were cabs in the fleet with over a million clicks.
As far as the latest with dual curve etc, I went down this track with the Chev motor ( carby) and the converters I spoke to said to run premium petrol & tune for gas & you won't notice the difference.

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Originally Posted by akelly

Anyone had LPG on a series landy with a holden donk? I'm considering putting mine on gas to make it a bit cheaper as a daily driver but I want to keep my dual fuel (petrol) tanks as well. We used to fit a "black box" to your dizzy to change the spark curve between gas and petrol when you switched between them - is this still done (or something like it) for carby/non computer engines?

Its been a very long time since I had anything to do with LPG - we used to fit IMPCO converters and mixers, everything else was a cheaper brand, that seemed to give the best performance - I'd be keen to hear of others experiences with this kind of application (series landy with holden).

cheers,

Adam

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A Holden straight six on gas would be, without doubt one of the most reliable engines ever.

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Originally Posted by blitz

I had LPG fitted to my disco series I a couple of weeks ago (thank you Bee Utey) - free plug!!!

i have now driven it enough to be able to do a comparison between gas and petrol. my range on petrol is 500km which cost on average about $135-00 My range on gas is 250km which costs on average $35-00

This means that I am making a savings of about 50% on gas or petrol is 100% more expensive depends on how you want to look at it - My thoughts, if you can afford it and with the gov rebate pretty much everyone can, go for it the savings are worth it.

to put it into a weekly perspective, I am saving better than $50-00 per week, per year that will add up to over $2500-00 per year to spend on more go better bits on the old girl

Cheers Blythe

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:)how much did it cost to fit the LPG setup in your car ?? and how long before you start saving money,after taking into account the cost of setting it up.........

I just did a trip over Easter to the Big Desert in Vic & The Boarder Track , We had 5 cars a Rangie Classic manual stroked to 5Ltr on Lpg , a 93 Disco Auto 3.9 v8 on Lpg , a GQ Nissan 4.2 efi manual Lwb on Lpg , A 96 Tdi Auto Disco towing a trailer , and my Td5 110 Defender .

The result being all the lpg powered cars used twice as much fuel + more litres as the diesel cars .
After doing the big desert we went too Pinnaroo in SA for fuel , My Td5 took $35 worth of diesel and the Tdi disco with the trailer took $45 worth of diesel all the Lpg powered cars took over $50 + of Lpg which also was a lot more litres than the diesels :p
So in the bush there is no saving in having Lpg :p
In saying that my Td5 Defender returned on the Hwy fully laden and with a roofrack sitting on 110 kmh 10 litres per 100 ks:D
All the Lpg cars had dramas of some sort with their Lpg setups .

Fair enough, but at my stage in life I can't justify spending over $20K on a vehicle. V8 Disco's are astonishingly... for the time being that's what we'll run.

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Originally Posted by longreach

:)how much did it cost to fit the LPG setup in your car ?? and how long before you start saving money,after taking into account the cost of setting it up.........

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I think you'll find Mr Rudd pays for the install :D

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Originally Posted by rangieman

I just did a trip over Easter to the Big Desert in Vic & The Boarder Track , We had 5 cars a Rangie Classic manual stroked to 5Ltr on Lpg , a 93 Disco Auto 3.9 v8 on Lpg , a GQ Nissan 4.2 efi manual Lwb on Lpg , A 96 Tdi Auto Disco towing a trailer , and my Td5 110 Defender .

The result being all the lpg powered cars used twice as much fuel + more litres as the diesel cars .
After doing the big desert we went too Pinnaroo in SA for fuel , My Td5 took $35 worth of diesel and the Tdi disco with the trailer took $45 worth of diesel all the Lpg powered cars took over $50 + of Lpg which also was a lot more litres than the diesels :p
So in the bush there is no saving in having Lpg :p
In saying that my Td5 Defender returned on the Hwy fully laden and with a roofrack sitting on 110 kmh 10 litres per 100 ks:D
All the Lpg cars had dramas of some sort with their Lpg setups .

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Let's take LPG out of the it for a second, the vehicles are petrol powered engines, and the costs would be a lot dearer in petrol, and consumption of petrol powered cars are always going to be more than a diesel.
having LPG will save on refueling expenses when it replaces petrol being used as a fuel.
Diesels will always be a more economical choice for long distance bush travel.
The range of a diesel is longer, I can vouch for that when I travelled from Melbourne to Mildura and then onto the Flinders ranges in SA, then down the S.A coast. I can't recall how many constant stops I had to make to fill up LPG due the the limited range. LPG limits my of the beaten track ( so to speak) adventures due to supply and range. I don't particularly want to carry numerous jerry cans of fuel either just to ensure I have the extra range when the LPG runs out.
My next vehicle has to be a diesel.